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RE: Extra Credit Questions - L Verge - 06-18-2018 09:20 AM

(06-18-2018 05:03 AM)RJNorton Wrote:  Name all of these people, left to right:

[Image: people99.jpg]

If the one with his head down is Ed Steers, then I can name five: James Swanson, Michael Kauffman, Louise Taper, Ed Steers, and Tom Turner (in that order left to right), but I cannot see the last face clearly enough to identify.

On second thought, the lady might be Betty Ownsbey??


RE: Extra Credit Questions - RJNorton - 06-18-2018 09:47 AM

You have the eyes of a teenager! You are correct on all folks you named (the lady is Louise Taper, not Betty). Now who is the very last gentleman in the row? (The photo is from 2005.)


RE: Extra Credit Questions - L Verge - 06-18-2018 10:15 AM

(06-18-2018 09:47 AM)RJNorton Wrote:  You have the eyes of a teenager! You are correct on all folks you named (the lady is Louise Taper, not Betty). Now who is the very last gentleman in the row? (The photo is from 2005.)

It has to be a panel from The Lincoln Forum at Gettysburg that year. I was there, so shame on me for not remembering everyone. My first thought was that it was our own Jerry Madonna, but I don't think Jerry ever came to the Forum?

This gentleman is heavier in the photo than what he is now (I think), but is it perhaps Frank Williams?


RE: Extra Credit Questions - RJNorton - 06-18-2018 10:57 AM

Right and right!

The image is indeed from the 2005 Lincoln Forum at Gettysburg, and the last gentleman in the row is Frank Williams. Good job, Laurie!

If anyone would like to see the panel discussion, there is a video of it here:

https://www.c-span.org/video/?190118-1/lincoln-murdered


RE: Extra Credit Questions - RJNorton - 07-06-2018 04:06 AM

From 1833-1836 Abraham Lincoln was the postmaster for New Salem.

What was his income for this job for the years he served in this role? (not his yearly income but total income for the time he was postmaster)


RE: Extra Credit Questions - AussieMick - 07-06-2018 06:42 AM

Between $150 and $175 in total for the 3 years.

The only full year for which there is clear documentation he was paid $55.70.

There were some perks (as we call them). He could send and receive his own personal mail free of charge. And he could read all the newspapers cost free before they went to the recipient.


RE: Extra Credit Questions - RJNorton - 07-06-2018 07:11 AM

You receive an A+, Michael! Kudos! You are correct on everything you said.


RE: Extra Credit Questions - David Lockmiller - 07-08-2018 08:31 AM

At McClellan's quarters on the night of October 10, 1861, a gangly youth introduced as ______ ________ went upstairs to summon the General, and Lincoln remarked:

"One doesn't like to make a messenger of the King of France, as that youth, the Count of Paris, would be if his family had kept the throne."

Fill in the two blanks and add details of his royal history and his service in the U.S. Army.


RE: Extra Credit Questions - RJNorton - 07-08-2018 09:44 AM

Captain Orleans? (Louis–Philippe d’Orleans, Comte de Paris)

There is some information about him on these web pages:

http://www.19thshop.com/book/civil-war-photographic-album-louis-philippe-dorleans-comte-de-paris/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Philippe,_Count_of_Paris


RE: Extra Credit Questions - David Lockmiller - 07-08-2018 01:37 PM

(07-08-2018 09:44 AM)RJNorton Wrote:  Captain Orleans? (Louis–Philippe d’Orleans, Comte de Paris)

There is some information about him on these web pages:

http://www.19thshop.com/book/civil-war-photographic-album-louis-philippe-dorleans-comte-de-paris/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Philippe,_Count_of_Paris

Was that a wild guess, Roger? How exactly did you discover the correct answer? I am sure that the viewers at home would like to know!

Would not it be wonderful to examine the photograph book assembled for the Comte de Paris and donated to Cornell University as its 8 millionth book.

I already knew about the Wikipedia entry. The Comte de Paris may have made his largest and longest lasting contribution to history in bed (if you know what I mean).


RE: Extra Credit Questions - RJNorton - 07-08-2018 01:46 PM

I found it in John Hay's diary for October 10, 1861.

"We came to McClellan's quarters and met in the telegraph office a long and awkward youth who spoke in a high-pitched and rapid tone to Seward, "We are just in from a ride of all day." Seward introduced him to me as Captain Orleans [Louis Phillipe d'Orleans, Comte de Paris]. He [Orleans] went upstairs to call McClellan and the President said quietly "One doesnt like to make a messenger of the King of France, as that youth, the Count of Paris would be, if his family had kept the throne."


RE: Extra Credit Questions - David Lockmiller - 07-08-2018 02:09 PM

(07-08-2018 01:46 PM)RJNorton Wrote:  I found it in John Hay's diary for October 10, 1861.

"We came to McClellan's quarters and met in the telegraph office a long and awkward youth who spoke in a high-pitched and rapid tone to Seward, "We are just in from a ride of all day." Seward introduced him to me as Captain Orleans [Louis Phillipe d'Orleans, Comte de Paris]. He [Orleans] went upstairs to call McClellan and the President said quietly "One doesnt like to make a messenger of the King of France, as that youth, the Count of Paris would be, if his family had kept the throne."

I found the entry in the "Recollected Words of Abraham Lincoln" compiled and edited by Don and Virginia Fehrenbacher. Very interesting, the contents of the book are listed in the front part of the book by source contributor. I was looking through the contributions by John Hay. Entry #16 lists The Count of Paris, which caught my interest.


RE: Extra Credit Questions - RJNorton - 07-08-2018 02:42 PM

I agree with you. It was a very interesting question, David!


RE: Extra Credit Questions - L Verge - 07-11-2018 05:39 PM

While Mike Kauffman was doing his extensive research, he used to refer to Six Degrees of Separation and say that he could link things from the Lincoln conspiracy story to lots of other things that we are familiar with in history. I just found another one that you can try and guess:

What popular food seasoning has some link to assassination history? Name the seasoning, and then tell what the link is.


RE: Extra Credit Questions - AussieMick - 07-11-2018 06:39 PM

(07-11-2018 05:39 PM)L Verge Wrote:  While Mike Kauffman was doing his extensive research, he used to refer to Six Degrees of Separation and say that he could link things from the Lincoln conspiracy story to lots of other things that we are familiar with in history. I just found another one that you can try and guess:

What popular food seasoning has some link to assassination history? Name the seasoning, and then tell what the link is.

Laurie, I've always associated the surname Rathbone ( as in Henry Rathbone) with Basil ... the film actor of yesteryear who often played Sherlock Holmes.
So I'll say Basil.