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RE: Who is this lady? - Wild Bill - 07-11-2016 05:49 AM

Victoria Woodhull Clafflin

Make that Victoria Clafflin Woodhull==sorry!


RE: Who is this lady? - L Verge - 07-11-2016 11:01 AM

Good lord, Mr. Richter, what time do you get up and start to function? You posted this while it had to be still dark out!

You are absolutely correct. And, as your prize, I would like you to write a 3-6 page article on Mrs. Woodhull for the September or October issue of the Surratt Courier. Deadline for September issue would be August 10 - for October issue, September 10.

She's an interesting character, but please be gentle with any political commentary.

Part 2 - who was her running mate?


RE: Who is this lady? - Wild Bill - 07-11-2016 02:08 PM

Frederick Douglass, another supreme egotist


RE: Who is this lady? - Gencor - 10-14-2016 04:47 PM

(08-27-2012 01:52 PM)Laurie Verge Wrote:  I'm trying to figure out how this woman got her hair in that contortion! If those things are her hair, they are what used to be called finger curls.

They are platted bangs, Laurie. They never wore bangs like we know them but they had shortish type curles around their face and when they were growing out, they platted them and penned them back. I only know this because my mom used to be cosmetologist and she told me that it was another way that they used to make wavy curls.


RE: Who is this lady? - Eva Elisabeth - 01-17-2017 01:56 PM

Who is this lady...supposed to be?
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RE: Who is this lady? - RJNorton - 01-17-2017 02:05 PM

Mary Lamson Stanton?

This was Edwin Stanton's first wife. Regarding her death, author Burton Hendrick writes, "When Mary Lamson died, in 1844, Stanton's morbidity again aroused fears for his sanity. This was the wife with whom he had spent his early days of struggle; that the end should have come when prosperity had arrived, when Stanton had just crowned his success by taking for his home the finest house in Steubenville, seemed to make the tragedy complete. The bereaved husband sent for a dressmaker and ordered her to produce a perfect duplicate of Mary's wedding gown. "She is my bride," he moaned, "and shall be dressed and buried like a bride." The Supreme Court had to suspend sessions for a month, for Stanton, whose name appeared on every calendar, would not leave his dead wife's grave. Every night he would put her nightcap and gown on her bed, and sit beside them weeping for hours."


RE: Who is this lady? - Eva Elisabeth - 01-17-2017 03:33 PM

An outstanding guess, Roger, I'm sorry the picture is not supposed to depict Mrs. Stanton. (While Stanton is declared morbid I personally find his conduct proves deep affection and love.)


RE: Who is this lady? - RJNorton - 01-17-2017 04:12 PM

Matilda Edwards?


RE: Who is this lady? - Eva Elisabeth - 01-17-2017 04:19 PM

Another thing excellent guess, Roger, but not correct.

Hint #1: No photo of this lady could have been taken.


RE: Who is this lady? - L Verge - 01-17-2017 04:43 PM

The hairstyle and plunging neckline suggest the Regency or Empire period (pre-1850?) - before the advent of widespread photography. Otherwise, I am at a loss as to the identity of this lovely lady.


RE: Who is this lady? - Eva Elisabeth - 01-17-2017 06:30 PM

Very correct, Laurie - pre-1850 and pre-photography era (in any case pre-first-photo of a human). I'm referring to the lady as don't know when the picture (painting?) was created. (Reminds of Mona Lisa, just this lady looks more delicate IMO).

Hint #2: I was amazed to find it on find-a-grave. I had never seen it before.


RE: Who is this lady? - L Verge - 01-17-2017 06:53 PM

Later related to the Lincoln administration? Assassination-related? Civil War? Do later photos of the lady exist?

Right now, my brain is wandering to Mrs. Robert E. Lee...


RE: Who is this lady? - Eva Elisabeth - 01-17-2017 06:59 PM

Laurie, please look again at hint #1, and read my last reply as a hint, too:

Hint #3: "...pre-1850 and pre-photography era (in any case pre-first-photo of a human)".

(Neither Lincoln-administration, CW, nor assassination-related...)


RE: Who is this lady? - L Verge - 01-17-2017 07:04 PM

Related to Lincoln's early years?


RE: Who is this lady? - Eva Elisabeth - 01-18-2017 02:57 AM

Yes, correct.