Extra Credit Questions - Printable Version +- Lincoln Discussion Symposium (https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium) +-- Forum: Lincoln Discussion Symposium (/forum-1.html) +--- Forum: Trivia Questions - all things Lincoln (/forum-8.html) +--- Thread: Extra Credit Questions (/thread-3582.html) Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 |
RE: Extra Credit Questions - RJNorton - 01-20-2015 03:13 PM This is Robert T. Lincoln. Where was he when this photo was taken? RE: Extra Credit Questions - Joe Di Cola - 01-20-2015 03:37 PM (01-20-2015 03:13 PM)RJNorton Wrote: This is Robert T. Lincoln. Where was he when this photo was taken? On a trip out in Yellowstone with President Chester Alan Arthur in 1883. RE: Extra Credit Questions - RJNorton - 01-20-2015 04:58 PM Brilliant, Joe! That's correct. This was in 1883 when RTL was President Arthur's Secretary of War. From http://www.gutenberg.org/files/42112/42112-8.txt 1. John Schuyler Crosby, Governor of Montana Territory; 2. Michael V. Sheridan, Lieutenant-Colonel and Military Secretary; 3. Philip H. Sheridan, Lieutenant-General, U. S. Army; 4. Anson Stager, Brigadier-General, U. S. Volunteers; 5. W. P. Clark, Captain Second Cavalry, U. S. Army; 6. Chester A. Arthur, President of the United States; 7. Dan. G. Rollins, Surrogate of New York; 8. James F. Gregory, Lieutenant-Colonel and Aide-de-camp; 9. Robert T. Lincoln, Secretary of War; 10. George G. Vest, United States Senator from Missouri. The most elaborate expedition that ever passed through this region took place in August, 1883. It included among its members the President of the United States, the Secretary of War, the Lieutenant-General of the Army, a United States Senator, and several other distinguished officers and civilians. The interesting part of the journey lay between Fort Washakie, Wyo., and the Northern Pacific Railroad at Cinnabar, Mont. The party traveled entirely on horseback, accompanied by one of the most complete pack trains ever organized in this or any other country, and escorted by a full troop of cavalry. Couriers were stationed every twenty miles with fresh relays, and by this means communication was daily had with the outside world. The whole distance traveled was 350 miles, through some of the wildest, most rugged, and least settled portions of the west. No accident or drawback occurred to mar the pleasure of the expedition. The great pastime _en route_ was trout fishing, in which the President and Senator Vest were acknowledged leaders. The phenomenal "catches" of these distinguished sportsmen might pass into history as typical "fish stories," were they not vouched for by the sober record of official dispatches, and the unerring evidence of photographer Haynes' camera. The elaborate equipment of this expedition, the eminent character of its _personnel_, and the evident responsibility resting upon those who conducted it, attracted a great deal of attention at the time, and gave it a prominent place in the annals of Western Wyoming. RE: Extra Credit Questions - L Verge - 01-20-2015 06:42 PM Someone please tell me who the good-looking Philip H. Sheridan is in the middle of the back row because it is not the Civil War Sheridan who destroyed the Shenandoah Valley. Also, the "real" Sheridan didn't marry until after the war, and his only son and namesake wasn't born until 1880. Is this handsome man a nephew? Is the Michael V. Sheridan beside him his father and uncle of the CW general? Don't tell Rick Smith and Wild Bill, but I have two, beautiful, wooden shelves in my house that are supported by carvings of Sheridan and Grant done by a Union veteran who served under Sheridan (and hence under Grant). The gentleman identified as James Gregory sure looks like Hulk Hogan. And, what is meant by the title of "Surrogate of New York?" Is that a fancy word for "representative?" As for this mission, our White House press office today would classify it as a "fact-finding mission." In truth, it probably really was a good-ole fishing trip to get out of the humid Washington, D.C. RE: Extra Credit Questions - STS Lincolnite - 01-20-2015 07:01 PM (01-20-2015 06:42 PM)L Verge Wrote: Someone please tell me who the good-looking Philip H. Sheridan is in the middle of the back row because it is not the Civil War Sheridan who destroyed the Shenandoah Valley. Also, the "real" Sheridan didn't marry until after the war, and his only son and namesake wasn't born until 1880. Is this handsome man a nephew? Is the Michael V. Sheridan beside him his father and uncle of the CW general? I don't think the numbers differentiate between sitting and standing. They just represent the order in which their faces appear. The one thereby identified as Philip Sheridan (#3) does look similar to what I have seen in photos of him as an older man - see attached from 1876 (he would be about 7 yrs. older in the group photo). The correct number would also then match up with Lincoln (#9). So the long answer your one of your questions: the "good looking" man middle back row would be W.P. Clark. Also, Michael V. Sheridan was Phil's younger brother. I'm not sure about the term surrogate but I was wondering about that too. Off to look it up... Ok Laurie, I found the answer to your question re: Dan G. Rollins Surrogate of New York Surrogates are what they call the judges in the Surrogate Courts of the State of New York. These courts handle all the probate and estate proceedings in the New York unified Court System. Dan G. Rollins was the Surrogate of New York County from 1881-1884. RE: Extra Credit Questions - RJNorton - 01-21-2015 04:46 AM Here is the image from the Lincoln Financial Foundation collection: RE: Extra Credit Questions - L Verge - 01-21-2015 07:15 PM (01-20-2015 07:01 PM)STS Lincolnite Wrote:(01-20-2015 06:42 PM)L Verge Wrote: Someone please tell me who the good-looking Philip H. Sheridan is in the middle of the back row because it is not the Civil War Sheridan who destroyed the Shenandoah Valley. Also, the "real" Sheridan didn't marry until after the war, and his only son and namesake wasn't born until 1880. Is this handsome man a nephew? Is the Michael V. Sheridan beside him his father and uncle of the CW general? Thanks, Scott. With your posting of the thumbnail, it is easy to see that the second seated gentleman from the left is Gen. Sheridan. As for Capt. Clark, he is the spitting image of Fred Atzerodt, George's great-grand nephew, when I first met him about thirty years ago. Just a thought: In his later years, Philip Sheridan certainly looked like a commander who could destroy the lovely Shenandoah Valley without a moment's hesitation... Pompous ___ comes to mind. And yes, I know he did it under orders, but I bet he enjoyed every minute of it. Just my Southern commentary. RE: Extra Credit Questions - STS Lincolnite - 01-22-2015 08:37 AM (01-21-2015 07:15 PM)L Verge Wrote: Just a thought: In his later years, Philip Sheridan certainly looked like a commander who could destroy the lovely Shenandoah Valley without a moment's hesitation... Pompous ___ comes to mind. And yes, I know he did it under orders, but I bet he enjoyed every minute of it. Just my Southern commentary. I am a Northerner and from what I have read (albeit little) about Sheridan, I think your "commentary", Southren or otherwise, is pretty accurate. I have a biography of Sheridan sitting in my "to read" stack. It might move closer to the top now as my interest has been piqued. RE: Extra Credit Questions - Wild Bill - 01-22-2015 03:38 PM I still think the best bio of Sheridan is Paul Andrew Hutton, Phil Sheridan and his Army. For a [ositive view of Sheridan during Reconstruction, see Joseph Green Dawson III, Army Generals and Reconstruction: Louisiana 1865-1877. For a critical view of Sheridan, see William L Richter The Army in Texas during Reconstruction. Dawson, a classmate of mine, has accused me of writing "Confederate History." Indeed! For an overview of Sheridan, see Richter, "General hip Sheridan, the Historians, and Reconstruction," Civil War History, 33 (No. 2, June 1987), 131-54. RE: Extra Credit Questions - RJNorton - 01-25-2015 03:16 PM On at least one occasion Mary Lincoln did not tell the truth about her age. Below is a portion of a letter she wrote. What was her actual age when she wrote this letter? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "Tomorrow is the anniversary of my birthday – I will be 46 – and I feel 86 – My husband always so playfully & tenderly reminded me of the day, if I affected to forget it. He was 14 years & 10 months older than myself, & was from my eighteenth year – Always – lover- husband – father & all all to me – Truly my all." RE: Extra Credit Questions - Eva Elisabeth - 01-25-2015 03:23 PM (Ten years older than I...) RE: Extra Credit Questions - RJNorton - 01-25-2015 03:42 PM Well, if you are 41, you are absolutely correct! Mary wrote this in a letter to Sally Orne on December 12, 1869. She was in Frankfurt at that time. Mary was about to be 51 when she told Sally Orne 46. When you asked the question about the Chenery House it made me wonder if the Lincolns considered staying a few nights at the Globe Tavern for nostalgia's sake. So your prize will be a free one-week stay in the Globe Tavern in the summer when it's warm in Springfield. RE: Extra Credit Questions - Eva Elisabeth - 01-25-2015 04:21 PM Thanks, Roger. I just wanted to delete my quick unofficial guess - which was actually "designed" to leave others a chance to guess, too (as I simply couldn't resist to guess)...this was such a good question to guess on! (01-25-2015 03:42 PM)RJNorton Wrote: When you asked the question about the Chenery House it made me wonder if the Lincolns considered staying a few nights at the Globe Tavern for nostalgia's sake.Maybe the Globe Tavern didn't exist anymore in 1861? (And probably the future First Lady would have considered it inappropriate.) BTW, in Mary's terms I'm 31! RE: Extra Credit Questions - Anita - 01-31-2015 08:10 PM [attachment=1387] Where is this Lincoln found? RE: Extra Credit Questions - STS Lincolnite - 01-31-2015 08:18 PM I have seen this before. If memory serves, I think it is in Wyoming somewhere. |