08-21-2012, 02:27 PM,
(This post was last modified: 08-21-2012, 02:28 PM by BettyO.)
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BettyO
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Conspirators' "Supplies" - Did They are Didn't They?!
A relevant question has been brought up by Dan Pearson -
This one has been brought up before, but what and why didn't the "boys" make for better provisions on the night of April 14th?
Did Booth and Herold REALLY think that they could make it down to Ashland, VA on to Richmond without fresh clothing and/or other provisions? Of course they would have Confederate safe houses on the way to tide them over, ala' Mudd, Cox, Jones, etc. Did they think that besides comestibles, they would need fresh clothing, including ammo for guns, etc.
What of Powell? More than likely going towards Baltimore, after he rode a ways, he would need not only food (of which he had none - and no safe houses along the way to provide it), but in losing his hat he would be mighty suspicious. He obviously did NOT carry saddlebags....
My question is -- since neither Booth nor Herold drew attention, they both had hats; with JWB's apparently with his horse outside. What else did Booth pack, if anything?
Powell stuffed his pockets with miscellaneous personal effects - but nothing to draw attention away from him as a lack of a hat would definitely make him suspicious. He was ill prepared for this contingency.
What do ya'll think? How well prepared or ill prepared were these guys?
In my opinion - I don't think they had planned this very well at all!
"The Past is a foreign country...they do things differently there" - L. P. Hartley
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08-21-2012, 02:53 PM,
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RE: Conspirators' "Supplies" - Did They are Didn't They?!
Great question Betty. I have the impression that Powell, Atzerodt and Herold depended on Booth for all the planning. Booth seemed to be under the impression that everyone in southern Maryland and Virginia would gladly offer him aid. That seems to be the extent of his planning.
Powell is perplexing. You mentioned in an earlier thread, (Mary Surratt's Denial of Lewis Powell, post #14) that he had $25 on him. That seems to be more than enough to help him get to Baltimore (if that was his goal) to get to a safe house. Would they have accepted him, if the original plan had only been to kidnap, and would they even have been expecting him. (if you kidnap, you head for Richmond)
There seems to be very little planning by Booth and the conspirators about what to do after the assassination - except which direction to head for. Did they have expectations that some one higher up had made the arangements regarding their escape? Or is the old saying true..."People don't plan to fail, they fail to plan"? (We insurance people like that phrase)
So when is this "Old Enough To Know Better" supposed to kick in?
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08-22-2012, 07:25 AM,
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BettyO
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RE: Conspirators' "Supplies" - Did They are Didn't They?!
I agree with provisions regarding kidnapping - these were more or less of vital importance if the boys had the President in tow....and a plan was more or less in essence to stop at Mudd's and every other stop on the way south.....
However, Lew Powell was NOT going south - and professional soldier that he was, I have to agree with Jim, he did travel light - although I would have made sure to pack TWO hats in case one was lost. He made sure to pack two tooth brushes and two handkerchiefs. Why not another hat? That would have been more crucial. I also don't think that he thought he'd have to resort to his knife - most certainly not. Had his gun not missed fire, he would not have been as blood spattered, if at all, and could more or less have made a "clean" getaway in more ways than one. His probable plan was to perhaps ride back around the city and catch a train to Baltimore if possible. I doubt he thought he could ride the 40 + miles to the Monument City, although he may have thought so.
"The Past is a foreign country...they do things differently there" - L. P. Hartley
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08-22-2012, 07:11 PM,
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RE: Conspirators' "Supplies" - Did They are Didn't They?!
The whole thing seemed a bit of a chaotic mess to me. To execute something so drastic, it makes no sense not to plan ahead down to the last meticulous detail....unless of course, it was a last minute decision, which it seems to have been. Was JWB so magnetic and dominant a character that he totally held the others in his thrall? Or were there promises, albeit empty ones, and false assurances that he had no possible hope of honouring, that escape for all of them would be assured? The more i read about this, the more I'm inclined to believe that a higher authority was really running the show...fuelled by JWB's ego and a certain amount of naivete of the whole group in general.
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08-23-2012, 02:04 PM,
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RE: Conspirators' "Supplies" - Did They are Didn't They?!
(08-23-2012, 06:02 AM)BettyO Wrote: (08-23-2012, 05:10 AM)MaddieM Wrote: What if there was no higher authority. And just plain old ego involved on the part of JWB.
I've always thought that there WAS a "higher authority" - Powell in prison said that there was; i.e. someone high up in the Confederate hierarchy - and I think that "someone" was Judah P. Benjamin. Surratt worked for him; more than likely Powell as well, once he left Mosby's unit. Booth may have been persuasive and had illustrious connections - but so did Powell. He was second cousin to General John Brown Gordon.
I've just found this. Why would Johnson be implicated in the assassination?
Approximately 7 hours before shooting the President, Booth dropped by the Washington hotel which was Vice-President Andrew Johnson’s residence. Upon learning from the desk clerk that neither Johnson nor his private secretary, William A. Browning, was in the hotel, Booth wrote the following note: “Don’t wish to disturb you Are you at home? J. Wilkes Booth.”
Mary Todd Lincoln: “As sure, as you and I live, Johnson, had some hand, in all this…”
http://thinkorthwim.com/2007/04/18/johns...ssination/
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