04-03-2019, 06:11 PM
I'm at work now, so I can't really respond, but I will later. Let me say, however, that I agree there is nothing other than what Herndon said. If he lied about it, one then must answer why?
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(04-03-2019 06:11 PM)Rob Wick Wrote: [ -> ]I'm at work now, so I can't really respond, but I will later. Let me say, however, that I agree there is nothing other than what Herndon said. If he lied about it, one then must answer why?
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(04-03-2019 06:11 PM)Rob Wick Wrote: [ -> ]I'm at work now, so I can't really respond, but I will later. Let me say, however, that I agree there is nothing other than what Herndon said. If he lied about it, one then must answer why?
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Quote:Yes, he was married at that time, but for men whose lifestyle includes visiting prostitutes, this is often no barrier. IMO, Lincoln's lifestyle did not include visits to prostitutes even if it was a common practice on the frontier.
Quote: As I say, it wouldnt be the first time that a man has told another man about sexual exploits which didnt happen. ("C'mon, Abraham ... I bet yer had some good times out on circuit? " Nudge, nudge. "Yer dont drink ... dont smoke ... dont even cuss much ... must have some faults ... Yer a strange sort of a man ... C'mon ... Pay a few visits to friendly ladies ? Eh? Eh?" "Yeah well ... a man does have needs . I guess.")
Quote:I was wondering, fact or fiction, why would Herndon even mention it at all?
Quote:I would point out that he seemed not have been experienced in the use of prostitutes when talking, post-New Salem, to Speed (for example, his 'Where can I get some?' question). Unless I suppose you assume that Lincoln had made use of prostitutes in New Salem and was now simply seeking information from a local as to where he should go in order to continue the practice.
(04-05-2019 02:26 AM)Steve Wrote: [ -> ]Jany 5th '89
(04-05-2019 11:31 AM)Rob Wick Wrote: [ -> ]It's in the same letter that Herndon reports to Weik on the story about Lincoln staying with a gentleman named Cottenbarger in 1850 when Lincoln went to Bloomington for court. This was the incident when Lincoln was sleeping in the same room as Cottenbarger's daughter and her feet hit Lincoln's pillow. "This put the devil into Lincoln at once, thinking that the girl did this of a purpose. Lincoln reached up his hand and put it where it ought not to be." (Herndon to Jesse Weik, January 5, 1889 in Herndon on Lincoln: Letters, University of Illinois Press, 2016, pg. 296). By the way, Herndon told Weik that Lincoln also told the story to James Matheny and Milton Hay, and all three remembered the story the same way.