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I was Googling L.L. Hale and up came a Facebook page that showed she got engaged to John Wilkes Booth. https://www.facebook.com/people/Lucy-Lam...3047621984

(09-06-2016, 06:36 PM)Lincoln Wonk Wrote: [ -> ]I was Googling L.L. Hale and up came a Facebook page that showed she got engaged to John Wilkes Booth. https://www.facebook.com/people/Lucy-Lam...3047621984

Nothing like opening that facebook link and finding your daughter's postings on it!

(09-06-2016, 07:06 PM)L Verge Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-06-2016, 06:36 PM)Lincoln Wonk Wrote: [ -> ]I was Googling L.L. Hale and up came a Facebook page that showed she got engaged to John Wilkes Booth. https://www.facebook.com/people/Lucy-Lam...3047621984

Nothing like opening that facebook link and finding your daughter's postings on it!

Laurie, I didn't realize that! Kathy

Sorry Lucy, but I bet he never marries you.
Trust me, you'll be happier in the long run.
I suggest you take a nice trip to get over him. Meet new people. Have you ever been to Spain?

Which reminds me of a song - "Lady of Spain"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIEMlhXeETs

Lucy hasn't posted on FB in almost five years. Hope she is ok!

Does anyone know the newspaper Sen. Hale published the ad claiming Lucy and Wilkes were not an item?

Could that have been Seacoast NH, before they went online?

http://seacoastnh.com/arts/please042098.html

(09-06-2016, 07:40 PM)Gene C Wrote: [ -> ]Sorry Lucy, but I bet he never marries you.
Trust me, you'll be happier in the long run.
I suggest you take a nice trip to get over him. Meet new people. Have you ever been to Spain?

Which reminds me of a song - "Lady of Spain"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIEMlhXeETs

I thought it would remind you of a Lucy Hale song!

(09-07-2016, 04:29 PM)Gene C Wrote: [ -> ]Could that have been Seacoast NH, before they went online? :)

http://seacoastnh.com/arts/please042098.html

Gene, I was thinking he'd do it in D.C., where his political friends were, but you may be right that he'd publish it closer to home. Kathy

(09-07-2016, 10:58 AM)Lincoln Wonk Wrote: [ -> ]Does anyone know the newspaper Sen. Hale published the ad claiming Lucy and Wilkes were not an item?

Denials were published in quite a few newspapers, mostly in the east. There were several different versions, but my favorite was one that appeared in the Saturday Evening Gazette in Boston:

"The report that J. Wilkes Booth was about to be married to the daughter of Hon. John P. Hale originated in the head of some stupid fool. There is no truth in the paragraph."

The most common version was the one that first appeared in the National Republican and was then spread around to newspapers all over the country:

"There is not the slightest truth in the statement." (The "statement" made by Junius Booth during an interview with reporters in Cincinnati wherein he announced that JWB had told him he was going to marry Lucy). "Booth attempted to force his attentions upon Miss Hale but she always manifested a decided aversion to the handsome villian."

(09-10-2016, 09:20 PM)Sally Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-07-2016, 10:58 AM)Lincoln Wonk Wrote: [ -> ]Does anyone know the newspaper Sen. Hale published the ad claiming Lucy and Wilkes were not an item?

Denials were published in quite a few newspapers, mostly in the east. There were several different versions, but my favorite was one that appeared in the Saturday Evening Gazette in Boston:

"The report that J. Wilkes Booth was about to be married to the daughter of Hon. John P. Hale originated in the head of some stupid fool. There is no truth in the paragraph."

The most common version was the one that first appeared in the National Republican and was then spread around to newspapers all over the country:

"There is not the slightest truth in the statement." (The "statement" made by Junius Booth during an interview with reporters in Cincinnati wherein he announced that JWB had told him he was going to marry Lucy). "Booth attempted to force his attentions upon Miss Hale but she always manifested a decided aversion to the handsome villian."

Sally, Would you have a date for when those appeared? Kathy

(09-10-2016, 10:21 PM)Lincoln Wonk Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-10-2016, 09:20 PM)Sally Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-07-2016, 10:58 AM)Lincoln Wonk Wrote: [ -> ]Does anyone know the newspaper Sen. Hale published the ad claiming Lucy and Wilkes were not an item?

Denials were published in quite a few newspapers, mostly in the east. There were several different versions, but my favorite was one that appeared in the Saturday Evening Gazette in Boston:

"The report that J. Wilkes Booth was about to be married to the daughter of Hon. John P. Hale originated in the head of some stupid fool. There is no truth in the paragraph."

The most common version was the one that first appeared in the National Republican and was then spread around to newspapers all over the country:

"There is not the slightest truth in the statement." (The "statement" made by Junius Booth during an interview with reporters in Cincinnati wherein he announced that JWB had told him he was going to marry Lucy). "Booth attempted to force his attentions upon Miss Hale but she always manifested a decided aversion to the handsome villian."

Sally, Would you have a date for when those appeared? Kathy

They started appearing a few days after Junius Booth's interview, which was reported around April 19th.

This was in the Springfield (Massachusetts) Republican on April 21:

"It is stated and not yet authoritatively contradicted, though we are confident it ought to be, that J. Wilkes Booth was to have been married soon to a daughter of John P. Hale of New Hampshire. Aside from his recent heinous crime Booth wasn't the kind of a man that any young lady of character would have noticed, much less married."

The statement in the Gazette about the "stupid fool" was published on April 22. But the one in the National Republican that seems to have been considered the "official" denial first appeared on April 24.

That's so interesting. Thanks, Sally.

Does Lucy explain on her Facebook page why she is buried in Dover, NH and her husband, William Chandler, is buried half way across the state in Concord???

(After Lucy returned from Europe, she began a relationship with Chandler, a widower and successful attorney. They were married in 1874. From 1882 to 1885, Chandler served as Secretary of the Navy (under President Arthur), and was a U.S. Senator from New Hampshire from 1887 to 1901. Lucy died in 1915 and is buried in Pine Hill Cemetery in Dover. Chandler died in 1917 and is buried in Blossom Hill Cemetery in Concord.)

I am just speculating, but perhaps it was because Chandler did not want to spend eternity next to Lucy and listening to her say “You were not nearly as handsome as was John.”

(Roger was kind enough to post some photos I took of Lucy's gravesite and home in Dover, which may be found here: http://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussio...light=hale )

Interesting point Bill. It could have been worse.

Tombstone states "Wife of Sen. William E Chandler"

as opposed to "Fiancee of John Wilkes Booth and later Wife of Sen. William E Chandler."