Hey everyone.. Steve here. New to the forum and figured we can kick it off with a tintype photo recovered from a estate of the Elwell family (who were prolific writers/politicians throughout the 1800s), in which I have became pretty good friends with one of the sons. This photo was within a old book album filled with well known people such as Charles Dickens, Dr. Samuel Mudd, and quite a few generals and so fourth. All the features match and I'm convinced.. What do you think?
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Hi Steve and welcome to the forum. I do not know who this person is, but this is not Abraham Lincoln. There are many books on Lincoln photographs, and although there are some errors, two I would suggest (in case you do not have them) are Lincoln in Photographs: An Album of Every Known Pose by Charles Hamilton and Lloyd Ostendorf and Lincoln's Photographs: A Complete Album by Lloyd Ostendorf. In all there are about 130 known photographs of Lincoln; roughly 40 are beardless and 90 with a beard. That's it, unless new discoveries are made in the future. Unfortunately what you have is not Mr. Lincoln.
I wonder how many Lincoln-admirers tried to copy his look (especially for a photo posing) in those days?!
I have to agree with Roger. The facial features are similar in some ways, but just too dissimilar to be considered real.
Welcome to the forum.
Best
Rob
I appreciate everyone's input very much. Rob, let me ask you.. Which facial features do you feel are off? From my research, everything looked to match to me.
His nose is the feature that stood out for me- not the same as AL's.
To me, this man's mouth, eyebrows and eyes look very different to Lincoln's. He looks a bit like a nearsighted person without specs.
(12-05-2013 03:56 PM)Eva Elisabeth Wrote: [ -> ]To me, this man's mouth, eyebrows and eyes look very different to Lincoln's. He looks a bit like a nearsighted person without specs.
Lol, I think we have now covered the whole face...
Whoever it is - sorry!
Lol well looks like I'm not that great with faces! To me, from what I could research, everything seemed dead on (aside from the nose now that it was mentioned). I appreciate all the input everybody and I'll continue on my hopeless search for that undiscovered Abraham Lincoln photo
Cheers,
Steve
(12-05-2013 03:44 PM)iCollect Wrote: [ -> ]I appreciate everyone's input very much. Rob, let me ask you.. Which facial features do you feel are off? From my research, everything looked to match to me.
Steve,
No mole.
Best
Rob
I'd love to see the picture of Dr. Mudd you found, Steve. If you don't mind sharing.
Agreed about Dr. Mudd photo.
Welcome Steve-What tells it is not Lincoln is-No Mole-The man in the photo has a bigger chest and shoulders than Lincoln.Did Lincoln ever have a scowel in a photo shoot like that?
Well I don't have the photo in my collection.. Yet. My next trip over there I plan on working out a deal for the rest of the photos. I saw Lincoln and went full speed ahead for that initially.. unfortunately it is not Lincoln ;(
Soon as I acquire the rest I will be more than happy to share tho!
Cheers,
Steve
(12-05-2013 06:15 PM)HerbS Wrote: [ -> ]Welcome Steve-What tells it is not Lincoln is-No Mole-The man in the photo has a bigger chest and shoulders than Lincoln.Did Lincoln ever have a scowel in a photo shoot like that?
Very good point about the shoulders and chest.. And of course the mole. I guess sometimes you get a bit excited and make rational decisions. Luckily, I did not pay much for this unknown Lincoln 'wannabe'