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Who's to blame?
03-02-2013, 08:59 PM
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RE: Who's to blame?
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(02-26-2013 01:02 PM)Lindsey Wrote:  This question might not start up too much discussion but I've always wondered about if Booth hadn't broken his leg, would he have ever been captured? Obviously, we will never know so I pose a different question: who is to blame for Booth being found? Willie Jett? William Rollins?

I wonder in a round-a-bout way if you could "pin" it on Harbin. If he and Baden hadn't been seen rowing across the river, the troops might not have crossed into VA as soon as they did, giving Booth more time to get further south...

I asked this same question in a round about way on another Lincoln site lol few years back . I got raked over the coals for saying I figured Booth would have been long gone possibly out of the country. Ok they were not my original thought, I read it by some author who said something to that effect. Thanks


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03-02-2013, 09:00 PM
Post: #17
RE: Who's to blame?
I believe there were 26 enlisted men in the 16th.
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03-02-2013, 09:40 PM
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(03-02-2013 08:32 PM)L Verge Wrote:  No, he received the same amount allocated for enlisted men in the unit.


Even though he was a sergeant?

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01-09-2016, 05:07 AM
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(03-02-2013 01:59 PM)DanielC Wrote:  Who gets the Credit? Reward money. Seems a bit short of 100k? How many soldiers under Doherty's command?

Detective Conger $15,000.00
Edward Doherty $5,250.00
LaFayette Baker $3,500.00
Luther Baker $3,000.00
James O'Beirne $2,000.00
George Cottingham $1,000.00
H.H. Wells $1,000.00
Alexander Lovett $1,000.00
Soldiers under Doherty's Command $1,653.85 each
Boston Corbett $1,653.85

(03-02-2013 09:00 PM)Jim Garrett Wrote:  I believe there were 26 enlisted men in the 16th.

Does anyone have a list of these 26 (?) men under Edward Doherty's command?

In particular, I'm wondering if one is named Kavanagh and if so what is known of him.
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01-09-2016, 06:30 AM
Post: #20
RE: Who's to blame?
This is a list I had in my files:

Boston Corbett, Andrew Wendell, Charles Zimmer, Michael Uniac, John Winter, Herman Newgarten, John Walz, Oliver Lonpay, Michael Hormsbey, John Myers, John Ryan, William Byrne, Philp Hoyt, Martin Kelly, Henry Putnam, Frank McDaniel, Lewis Savage, Abraham Genay, Emery Parady, David Baker, William McQuade, John Millington, Frederick Dietz, John H. Singer, Carl Steinbrugge, and Joseph Zisgen.
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01-09-2016, 11:38 AM
Post: #21
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(02-26-2013 05:06 PM)Dave Taylor Wrote:  
(02-26-2013 05:03 PM)Hess1865 Wrote:  Is there any solid proof that Jett telegraphed the War Dept.?

No, not at all. I'm pretty sure his movements were pretty well accounted for between Ruggles and Bainbridge and the Gouldman's. Lucinda Holloway just really hated Jett and either made it up, or easily convinced herself that it was true.

I never heard the Jett telegraph story before. Seems a little far-fetched. Given the rural locale of the Garret farm, I wonder if there was even a telegraph point anywhere close?
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01-09-2016, 03:25 PM
Post: #22
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(01-09-2016 11:38 AM)Dennis Urban Wrote:  
(02-26-2013 05:06 PM)Dave Taylor Wrote:  
(02-26-2013 05:03 PM)Hess1865 Wrote:  Is there any solid proof that Jett telegraphed the War Dept.?

No, not at all. I'm pretty sure his movements were pretty well accounted for between Ruggles and Bainbridge and the Gouldman's. Lucinda Holloway just really hated Jett and either made it up, or easily convinced herself that it was true.

I never heard the Jett telegraph story before. Seems a little far-fetched. Given the rural locale of the Garret farm, I wonder if there was even a telegraph point anywhere close?

I have never heard that story either. Wasn't there a rail line still in service somewhere near Bowling Green? Would there have been a telegraph service attached to it?

I have often wondered why Jett was snuggled all warm in his bed at Gouldman's while Bainbridge and Ruggles were still out and about earlier and in position to warn Booth and Herold, if necessary.
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01-09-2016, 03:57 PM
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(02-26-2013 04:23 PM)Laurie Verge Wrote:  Let's blame love.

Since they had been released from the army, and the war was over, you can blame it on love, but I think you need to blame it on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkBS4zUjJZo

So when is this "Old Enough To Know Better" supposed to kick in?
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01-09-2016, 08:33 PM
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(01-09-2016 06:30 AM)RJNorton Wrote:  
(01-09-2016 05:07 AM)jabalong Wrote:  
(03-02-2013 09:00 PM)Jim Garrett Wrote:  I believe there were 26 enlisted men in the 16th.

Does anyone have a list of these 26 (?) men under Edward Doherty's command?

In particular, I'm wondering if one is named Kavanagh and if so what is known of him.

This is a list I had in my files:

Boston Corbett, Andrew Wendell, Charles Zimmer, Michael Uniac, John Winter, Herman Newgarten, John Walz, Oliver Lonpay, Michael Hormsbey, John Myers, John Ryan, William Byrne, Philp Hoyt, Martin Kelly, Henry Putnam, Frank McDaniel, Lewis Savage, Abraham Genay, Emery Parady, David Baker, William McQuade, John Millington, Frederick Dietz, John H. Singer, Carl Steinbrugge, and Joseph Zisgen.

Thanks Roger
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01-09-2016, 09:26 PM
Post: #25
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(01-09-2016 03:57 PM)Gene C Wrote:  
(02-26-2013 04:23 PM)Laurie Verge Wrote:  Let's blame love.

Since they had been released from the army, and the war was over, you can blame it on love, but I think you need to blame it on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkBS4zUjJZo

Thanks for the memories, Gene. Love the Jacksons! All of them.
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