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Whom did Lincoln admire?
03-17-2019, 07:17 PM
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Whom did Lincoln admire?
Living or dead- before Lincoln became president. Who did he admire? Do you think at least 10 could be named?

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03-17-2019, 08:09 PM
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RE: Who did Lincoln admire?
Great question. Here is my list of 10:

Henry Clay
Daniel Webster
Alexander Stephens
Elijah Lovejoy
David Davis
George Washington
Winfield Scott
Edward Baker
William Knox
David Locke

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03-18-2019, 06:13 AM
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RE: Who did Lincoln admire?
Great list. Others please?
I think it’s very important for us who study Lincoln to know who he admired as his thinking must have been influenced by them.

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03-18-2019, 06:28 AM
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RE: Who did Lincoln admire?
Mike's list is excellent. I would add Shakespeare.
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03-18-2019, 07:38 AM
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RE: Who did Lincoln admire?
I might add Bowling Green

So when is this "Old Enough To Know Better" supposed to kick in?
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03-18-2019, 07:44 AM
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RE: Who did Lincoln admire?
I had thought of Shakespeare as well. And Robert Burns.

Others : Garibaldi. Ethan Allen.
Harriet Beecher Stowe. (Even if he didnt say "so you are the little woman who wrote the book that started this great war." ... he was obviously aware of the world-reaching impact of the enormous bedseller)

Henry Ward Beecher ( Lincoln apparently said of him, "no one in history had so productive a mind." And sent him to the UK to speak and undermine support of the South ... He was anti-Catholic and involved in an adultery scandal after the War)

“The honest man, tho' e'er sae poor,
Is king o' men for a' that” Robert Burns
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03-18-2019, 11:57 AM
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RE: Who did Lincoln admire?
Herndon notwithstanding, I think Lincoln sincerely admired the political philosophy of Thomas Jefferson if not Jefferson's private foibles. As for the other founders I would put Thomas Paine higher than many others.

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03-18-2019, 01:45 PM
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RE: Who did Lincoln admire?
Sarah Bush Johnston Lincoln
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03-19-2019, 06:08 AM
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RE: Who did Lincoln admire?
(03-18-2019 11:57 AM)Rob Wick Wrote:  Herndon notwithstanding, I think Lincoln sincerely admired the political philosophy of Thomas Jefferson if not Jefferson's private foibles. As for the other founders I would put Thomas Paine higher than many others.

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Rob:
I thought that Jefferson would have been on the list due to the Declaration. Thanks for confirming Jefferson. I agree that Paine is another one.

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03-19-2019, 08:10 AM (This post was last modified: 03-19-2019 08:21 AM by davg2000.)
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RE: Who did Lincoln admire?
John Stuart and/or Stephen Trigg Logan. (Maybe Logan a bit more than Stuart?)
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03-19-2019, 01:10 PM
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RE: Who did Lincoln admire?
I would also add David “Davy” Crockett.

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03-20-2019, 08:50 AM
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RE: Who did Lincoln admire?
I wonder if Lincoln also admired Daniel Boone? I don’t recall reading either such if he did.

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03-20-2019, 07:14 PM
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RE: Who did Lincoln admire?
(03-18-2019 01:45 PM)Anita Wrote:  Sarah Bush Johnston Lincoln

Good answer. I would definitely include her.
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03-21-2019, 05:20 AM
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RE: Who did Lincoln admire?
(03-20-2019 08:50 AM)LincolnMan Wrote:  I wonder if Lincoln also admired Daniel Boone? I don’t recall reading either such if he did.

Bill, I checked the Collected Works, and I could find only one mention of Daniel Boone. Here is a small part of a letter Lincoln wrote to Samuel Haycraft:

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Hon. Saml. Haycraft Springfield, Ills.
Dear Sir: May 28. 1860

Your recent letter, without date, is received. Also the copy of your speech on the contemplated Daniel Boone monument, which I have not yet had time to read.


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The fact that Lincoln had not yet read Haycraft's speech on the Boone monument could mean absolutely nothing. Or I suppose it could mean Lincoln had no real interest in the topic.

I also looked in other sources, such as the Fehrenbachers' book, and drew a blank on Lincoln ever expressing an admiration of Daniel Boone.
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03-21-2019, 05:50 AM
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RE: Who did Lincoln admire?
(03-21-2019 05:20 AM)RJNorton Wrote:  
(03-20-2019 08:50 AM)LincolnMan Wrote:  I wonder if Lincoln also admired Daniel Boone? I don’t recall reading either such if he did.

Bill, I checked the Collected Works, and I could find only one mention of Daniel Boone. Here is a small part of a letter Lincoln wrote to Samuel Haycraft:

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Hon. Saml. Haycraft Springfield, Ills.
Dear Sir: May 28. 1860

Your recent letter, without date, is received. Also the copy of your speech on the contemplated Daniel Boone monument, which I have not yet had time to read.


+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The fact that Lincoln had not yet read Haycraft's speech on the Boone monument could mean absolutely nothing. Or I suppose it could mean Lincoln had no real interest in the topic.

I also looked in other sources, such as the Fehrenbachers' book, and drew a blank on Lincoln ever expressing an admiration of Daniel Boone.

Thank you Roger for that search. My guess is he admired Boone. As we know, Lincoln’s ancestors journeyed with Boone through the Cumberland Gap heading into Kentucky.

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