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(03-16-2020 12:56 AM)Steve Whitlock Wrote:
(06-15-2015 05:23 PM)Eva Elisabeth Wrote:
(06-15-2015 03:45 PM)loetar44 Wrote:
(06-15-2015 02:13 PM)RJNorton Wrote: The image of Sophie Hanks arrived from the LOC today. Many thanks to the LOC for sharing it with us. Along with the image there is a typed note which says, "Lincoln's (first) cousin, Sophie Hanks, who grew up with him in Indiana. Her son was displeased with this likeness because the photographer had retouched it so as to remove a mole on her face. He stated that this mark was characteristic of the Hanks family, and that in location and appearance it was similar to the mole appearing on likenesses of Abraham Lincoln."

Image credit: Arther E. Morgan Collection - Library of Congress

Thank you Roger for sharing this photo! Indeed the "spittin image" of Honest Abe in my opinion...

Roger (or someone else) do you have a photo of Dr. Lewis A. Warren ? Thanks!
I 100% agree on the resemblance - thanks for ordering and posting, Roger!!! Weren't there also photos of John LeGrand in the Morgan papers? I was hoping they would have sent you a copy of one of those, too.
I have a photo of Nancy (Lynch) Davison holding one of her sons, from the Morgan collection. She's a daughter of Sophia (Hanks) Lynch-Legrand. It's a pdf file, and I can't attach it here, unless I bother Roger again.

If anyone wants a copy just contact me at ctn59880@centurytel.net.

I have a lot of Legrand information, but no photos of Dr. James LeGrand. However, I have a few associated LeGrand photos, but no serious resemblance to Lincoln there. The attached 1932 letter mentions that there should be a couple of James LeGrand photos in the Morgan collection.

There is a presentation by former trial lawyer Richard G. Hileman available by either going to Genetic Lincoln and clicking the NHL mtdna tab, and near the bottom is mention of a link to go to the presentation, or you can go to https://archive.org/details/4260270.

Rich had to read the whole presentation due to some equipment issues, but the bottom line is that he has some letters and photos you haven't seen, such as a photo of Lewis Warren, and a scathing letter Caroline Hitchcock wrote about William Barton's book. Later, once she realized she was mistaken about her own research, Hitchcock wrote letters begging for a chance to redeem herself.

Rich also has a copy of the letter Sophia (Hanks) Lynch-Legrand, who was still living in MO at the time, wrote to Dennis Hanks asking him if it was true that the Abraham Lincoln she knew was really the President. Dennis referred to that exchange with Sophie in a letter he wrote to President Lincoln.

The photo of Nancy (Lynch) Davison and her son is also in the presentation, as well as the famous photo of Sophia Hanks we have here. As I said there may be several things you haven't seen before. And if all else fails I have a .pdf file of the presentation.

Rich Hileman was one of the five members for the Nancy Hanks Lincoln mtdna study, and has researched her for many years.

(03-16-2020 06:14 PM)Steve Whitlock Wrote:
(03-16-2020 12:56 AM)Steve Whitlock Wrote:
(06-15-2015 05:23 PM)Eva Elisabeth Wrote:
(06-15-2015 03:45 PM)loetar44 Wrote: [quote='RJNorton' pid='48596' dateline='1434392035']

The photo of Nancy (Lynch) Davison and her son is also in the presentation, as well as the famous photo of Sophia Hanks we have here. As I said there may be several things you haven't seen before. And if all else fails I have a .pdf file of the presentation.

Rich Hileman was one of the five members for the Nancy Hanks Lincoln mtdna study, and has researched her for many years.
I just reviewed my .pdf file and see that Rich refers to the Nancy Davison photo as a possible photo of a young Sophia carrying James Legrand; however, a later photo description reveals it is Nancy Lynch Davison, as does the (attached) poor quality photo of Nancy and her husband John Potter Davison in later years.

(03-16-2020 06:14 PM)Steve Whitlock Wrote: [quote='Steve Whitlock' pid='80502' dateline='1584334592']
[quote='Eva Elisabeth' pid='48603' dateline='1434403400']
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[quote='RJNorton' pid='48596' dateline='1434392035']
The image of Sophie Hanks arrived from the LOC today. Many thanks to the LOC for sharing it with us. Along with the image there is a typed note which says, "Lincoln's (first) cousin, Sophie Hanks, who grew up with him in Indiana. Her son was displeased with this likeness because the photographer had retouched it so as to remove a mole on her face. He stated that this mark was characteristic of the Hanks family, and that in location and appearance it was similar to the mole appearing on likenesses of Abraham Lincoln."

Image credit: Arther E. Morgan Collection - Library of Congress

Thank you Roger for sharing this photo! Indeed the "spittin image" of Honest Abe in my opinion...

Roger (or someone else) do you have a photo of Dr. Lewis A. Warren ? Thanks!
I 100% agree on the resemblance - thanks for ordering and posting, Roger!!! Weren't there also photos of John LeGrand in the Morgan papers? I was hoping they would have sent you a copy of one of those, too.
I have a photo of Nancy (Lynch) Davison holding one of her sons, from the Morgan collection. She's a daughter of Sophia (Hanks) Lynch-Legrand. It's a pdf file, and I can't attach it here, unless I bother Roger again.

If anyone wants a copy just contact me at ctn59880@centurytel.net.

I have a lot of Legrand information, but no photos of Dr. James LeGrand. However, I have a few associated LeGrand photos, but no serious resemblance to Lincoln there. The attached 1932 letter mentions that there should be a couple of James LeGrand photos in the Morgan collection.

There is a presentation by former trial lawyer Richard G. Hileman available by either going to Genetic Lincoln and clicking the NHL mtdna tab, and near the bottom is mention of a link to go to the presentation, or you can go to https://archive.org/details/4260270.

Rich had to read the whole presentation due to some equipment issues, but the bottom line is that he has some letters and photos you haven't seen, such as a photo of Lewis Warren, and a scathing letter Caroline Hitchcock wrote about William Barton's book. Later, once she realized she was mistaken about her own research, Hitchcock wrote letters begging for a chance to redeem herself.

Rich also has a copy of the letter Sophia (Hanks) Lynch-Legrand, who was still living in MO at the time, wrote to Dennis Hanks asking him if it was true that the Abraham Lincoln she knew was really the President. Dennis referred to that exchange with Sophie in a letter he wrote to President Lincoln.

The photo of Nancy (Lynch) Davison and her son is also in the presentation, as well as the famous photo of Sophia Hanks we have here. As I said there may be several things you haven't seen before. And if all else fails I have a .pdf file of the presentation.

Rich Hileman was one of the five members for the Nancy Hanks Lincoln mtdna study, and has researched her for many years.

(03-16-2020 06:14 PM)Steve Whitlock Wrote:
(03-16-2020 12:56 AM)Steve Whitlock Wrote:
(06-15-2015 05:23 PM)Eva Elisabeth Wrote:
(06-15-2015 03:45 PM)loetar44 Wrote: [quote='RJNorton' pid='48596' dateline='1434392035']

The photo of Nancy (Lynch) Davison and her son is also in the presentation, as well as the famous photo of Sophia Hanks we have here. As I said there may be several things you haven't seen before. And if all else fails I have a .pdf file of the presentation.

Rich Hileman was one of the five members for the Nancy Hanks Lincoln mtdna study, and has researched her for many years.
I just reviewed my .pdf file and see that Rich refers to the Nancy Davison photo as a possible photo of a young Sophia carrying James Legrand; however, a later photo description reveals it is Nancy Lynch Davison, as does the (attached) poor quality photo of Nancy and her husband John Potter Davison in later years.

I just reviewed my .pdf file and see that Rich refers to the Nancy Davison photo as a possible photo of a young Sophia carrying James Legrand; however, a later photo description reveals it is Nancy Lynch Davison, as does the (attached) poor quality photo of Nancy and her husband John Potter Davison in later years.