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[Jim Garrett]

(07-30-2013 06:55 PM)Rob Wick Wrote:  The founders lived during the Enlightment, but were not of one mind where religion was concerned. While it's doubtful any were outright atheists (although Thomas Paine probably came the closest), they ranged from Diests (Jefferson, Madison, Franklin) to Congregationalists (Adams) to lukewarm Christians (Hamilton) among other classifications. All held some type of religious belief, but specifically did not mention any religion in the Constitution because they didn't want a situation in America like that which existed in Europe where the church held as much if not more power than the state. America is not a "Christian" nation, in the sense that we officially espouse Christianity.

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Rob

Since most of the founding fathers were of English heritage, they were mostly Christian. Since Virginia had a very strong connection back to England, the Church of England (Episcopal) was the recognized religion of the state. In colonial Virginia, there was only Episcopal churches, all other churches had meeting houses.

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(07-30-2013 01:25 PM)L Verge Wrote:  I would like to know what evidence they have against this woman. Did someone see her defacing the chapels in the cathedral? Did she actually have green paint with her when arrested? Something just doesn't seem right.

The footage of her being hustled into a police vehicle show a very small woman. Of course, she may have a Steven Strasburg arm on her in order to hurl the paint as high up as where it landed on many of the objects -- especially some of the organ pipes at Luther Place.

I'm betting that there is a lot more to this story - and that more defacings will continue. Chain reaction, domino effect, whatever, it's bound to bring out more undesirable citizens or "guests" of the U.S.

The other thing that bothers me, Laurie......if this woman is homeless, think about the mobility issue. She supposedly defaces the Lincoln Memorial and the statue of the Smithsonian's first secretary. Easy walking distance from each other. The statue of Martin Luther is a pretty good hike from the mall. Then to go way up Massachusetts Ave to the National Cathedral? How was she suppose to be getting around, and why the choice of targets. I'm with you Laurie, more questions than answers.