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(11-27-2013 09:42 AM)RJNorton Wrote:  
(11-27-2013 08:09 AM)J. Beckert Wrote:  I agree, Roger. The facts are strange. It seems Leale was quiet for 44 years and then let loose in one grand statement. :

Here is a capsule of the research this doctor sent me:

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If I can go on to you about M-to-M (because that is what I will be writing about) then the chequered history is:

1. Used by midwives, apparently since antiquity
2. 1732 Re-introduced by Wm Tossach's effective demonstration
3. Mid C18, adopted by Humane Socs, including the late-founded ones in the USA (and endorsed in 1788 by Mass. Humane Soc [HS] and 1791 by Philadelphia HS). Yet
4. 1782. Advised against by [what later became] the Royal HS (London)
5. Condemned, in effect, by French Academy of Sciences, Paris, 1829, after they accepted their commissioned studies findings that all positive pressure ventilation was dangerous
6. 1837 Condemned by the Royal HS also
7. thereafter until "rediscovery" in the 1940s, virtually abandoned and forgotten except among midwives, some obstetricians and some C20 anaesthetists.

So we have CAL fitting in between 6 &7. Hence my surprise and wonderment as to however did he come by such an out-of-favour method of resus, being just medically qualified...
Thank you very much for posting this info, Roger! That is most interesting! I found it quite amazing and strange when I first read that Dr. Lale did m-t-m ventilation. Despite that the method is mentioned in the Bible in a more metaphorical way (II Kings, 4, 32-35), I read that it was first scientifically developed and established primarily at the coasts to rescue drowned people, and only practiced by specially trained doctors. (And just that a method was known doesn't necessarily mean it was commonly taught and practiced.)

As for Laura Keene, that she held Lincoln's head in her lap like Mary Magdalene washed Jesus' feet reminds IMO a bit of a movie. But what I personally find very odd is that jealous Mary allowed a strange woman, famous or not, to do this (and to take over a role for which Mary herself - if any woman despite a nurse - would have been predestined).
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