Is This Abraham Lincoln?

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(06-21-2017 01:49 PM)wcvet6 Wrote:  

(06-21-2017 05:37 AM)RJNorton Wrote:  

(06-20-2017 04:47 PM)wcvet6 Wrote:  that death photo shows a full beard , the embalmer shaved him, no slight smile as per embalmers report , in fact I believe it to be a bust of his 1861 life mask, abe looked much older at death.

Offhand I cannot think of a single historian who has ever questioned the legitimacy of Dr. Ron Rietveld's magnificent find.

teaching history per the AHA, is leading the student to
the insight that history is a process of living inquiry, not an inert collection of accepted facts, and avoidance of conflict f interest, or bias, and conduct free of ridicule and the ability to protect new historical sourse materials ,to respect others views even if they differ from your own . I feel nobody gave this photo a chance because of ron rietvelds lead by the nose planted find . and once you bullies started to deny the obvious only post mortum of abe Lincoln the rest of you fell in line . no one addressed my challenges , no one compared his features that are truly distinct, despite the brady stand it is a post mortum his lips are sewn shut, set in a slight smile .clean shaven like the embalmers report you posted on this site , that statue in the coffin is just that . deal with it ! I wonder how many artifacts are lost due to historians non scientific approach and failure to consider. I am very disappointed in this matter , but thank you rj Norton for posting , and good day to all of you.

I'm uncomfortable with that statement.

It was an open inquiry. As far as "academic inquiry" goes, everyone offered arguments & even documentation in the form of links, photos, etc to back up WHY they thought it was NOT Lincoln - pre or post-mortum. True academic inquiry allows for both YOUR theory & others. Grades are earned based on the evidence offered in support of said theory.

The use of the word "bullies" indicates, in fact, that if opinions do differ from someone's, then the person differing runs the risk of being called a name. In a broad legal sense, that coercion. It stifles true academic inquiry.

If your photo wasn't given the due diligence you felt it deserved, then more/better evidence was necessary. If it still didn't change minds, then that leaves 2 avenues: first, accept that what you offered wasn't what you thought it was, & re-investigate OR second, those whose minds you were attempting to change aren't worth changing.

But name-calling has no place in academic inquiry, the classroom, or on a discussion thread of learned people.

By the way, the photo does not resemble Lincoln in the least. Feet are in the wrong shoes, aren't prominent to the extent that Lincoln's were because of his Marfen's Syndrome, AND last, because photography of that nature did NOT whiten hair...the exposure time required was too long.

It was a fun exercise though. Thank you for offering that opportunity.