If you have read Dixie Reckoning, Mr. Stelnick believed that the NY Crowd were financial movers and shakers based in NYC with arms reaching in directions as far away as Europe. I can't believe I'm saying this, but he presented a good case -- but he never produced primary source material to back it up. He cited that there was such material, but I don't believe that he ever proved it. Wild Bill, please correct me if I am wrong.