Booth escape route north
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08-30-2013, 10:57 PM
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RE: Booth escape route north
Laurie, et al. I'm posting this for all to use. (Sort of like putting fresh wood on the fire). This information came from The National Historic Railroad Association, back in 2010, covering travel from Washington to Montreal in 1865. Use it as you see fit.
Depart Washington from the Baltimore & Ohio Station at "C" Street and New Jersey Avenue, on the 07:00 train. Arrive Baltimore at the Mount Clare Station at 08:35. At this location the B&O trains turned west. The Cars that were intended to continue north, were towed by horses, along Pratt Street to the President Station of the Philadelphia, Wilmington and Baltimore Railroad. Depart Baltimore 09:30. These trains proceeded to the Susquehanna River, where the trains were loaded onto boats to be ferried across the river from Havre de Grace, MD, to Perryville, MD. After being replaced on the tracks, they proceeded through Wilmington DE, to Philadelphia, to the P.W. & B. Broad Street Station. arriving there at 13:30. From here the passengers were required to make their own way to the Walnut Street Wharf, to cross the Delaware River, on a Ferry Boat, to Camden, NJ. (Aside: this transfer was arranged for Gen. Grant by the US Army, where they provided Ambulances for his use.) At Camden, they boarded the Camden & Amboy Railroad for departure at 15:42. There were only two trains per day from this point to Jersey City, NJ - this one and one that left at 08:00. (There were no same day trains that came from Washington, that would make this connection.) It is interesting to note, that New Jersey railroads used a different gauge track from all other trains, for the express purpose of making all railroad traffic in NJ be carried on NJ trains. That was not a great deal of difficulty for passengers, but it meant that all freight had to be reloaded onto NJ boxcars - having the right gauge. The train ended in Jersey City. from there, there was another Ferry Boat ride across the Hudson River - operated by the Pennsylvania RR, to Courtland Street in Manhattan, NY - arriving there at 19:55. There were no more trains going north until noon the next day, so accommodations were available at the European Hotel. Your next carrier would be the New York & New Haven Line, that left from the 27th Street, at 4th Ave, Station at 12:23, arv. Stamford, CT 13:41, to Norwalk arv. 13:59, to Bridgport arv. 14:32, to New Haven arv. 15:20. Dep. New Haven 15.20, to Springfield arv17:57. At this stop the train was on the tracks of the Connecticut RR and dep at 18:30 for Brattleboro, VT arv. 20:57, now the tracks belong to the Rutlans and Burlington. Dep. 21:10 for Bellows Falls, arv. 21:55. , dep. 22:00. to White River Junction, arv. 23:55, dep. to Essex Junction, arv. 04:35, dep. 04:45 for St. Albans arv. O6:05, dep 06:10, for St. Johns (Quebec), arv 18:05, change to the Montreal & Champlain RR. Dep 08:08. Arv Montreal 09:25. PS. Maps of this route are available on Google. All the train names are listed here. (and the Towns). k,,,,m _______________________________________________________ Back in Washington there were other trains to Baltimore, but only this one connected with a train to NY, in Baltimore. It won't take much study, to determine that there was no train available that would take Booth "out of the country in 24 hours, -going north. " On the outside chance that Booth made it to Baltimore - after 7AM, on April 15th, he would have to wait for until next day. The next time he has to hide, tell him to dress like Ben Franklin, paint himself Bronze, and stand in the park. No one will even look at him. A little pigeon dropping on the shoulders , would enhance the pose. I got this info to determine what kind of a trip it was for Sarah Slater to go back and forth to Canada. It is understandable now, why she required an escort. At less than 5'-0" tall, she could not lift a suitcase clear of the pavement. |
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08-31-2013, 07:50 AM
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RE: Booth escape route north
Good work Slater.
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08-31-2013, 10:52 AM
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RE: Booth escape route north
There is a god, and her name is Sarah Slater. She walks amongst us, however, using the alias of John Stanton. All praise to thee.
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08-31-2013, 05:47 PM
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RE: Booth escape route north
Laurie said, "My point was that a priest would not be inclined to help a man identified as the assassin of President Lincoln." I disagree Laurie.
A few hundred years ago in Europe it was said that the Devil himself was embarrassed over the Jesuits, because they were more evil than he. Pope Pious IX said of Jefferson Davis, "We...beseech the god of pity to shed abroad upon you the light of his grace and attached you to us by a perfect friendship." Father Chiniquy said to Lincoln that the Church considered him an apostate and he (Lincoln) had no right to life. Archbishop Spaulding hated Lincoln and gave John Wilkes Booth the Holy Sacraments in March 1865. |
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08-31-2013, 06:01 PM
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RE: Booth escape route north
Prove your last sentence.
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08-31-2013, 06:33 PM
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RE: Booth escape route north
"Father Chiniquy left the Catholic Church in 1860, and began a crudade against it...",
"....he claimed in a book published in 1886 that the pope had ordered Lincoln's assassination." Lincoln Assassination Encyclopedia Anyone know why he left the Catholic Church or what his disagreement with them was about? So when is this "Old Enough To Know Better" supposed to kick in? |
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08-31-2013, 06:57 PM
(This post was last modified: 08-31-2013 07:02 PM by Craig Hipkins.)
Post: #37
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RE: Booth escape route north
Father Chiniquy left the Catholic Church after a disagreement with the Bishop of Chicago Anthony O' Regan. It is said that he was excommunicated from the Church, but Chiniquy denied that he had ever been excommunicated. The hierarchical structure of the Catholic Church is set up to where the Priest in a specific Diocese has to be obedient to the Bishop, who in turn is obedient to the Cardinal, and the Cardinal obedient to the Pope. From what I have been able to gather, Chiniquy, was a sort of renegade who wanted to start a French-Canadian Catholic colony somewhere on the Illinois frontier. Of course, O'Regan was Irish so there seems to have been some sort of cultural difference between the two which led to bad blood. Interestingly, Abraham Lincoln represented Chiniquy after he was sued for libel, and Lincoln was able to work out an agreement.
Craig Chiniquy's extremely long and somewhat fictitious book is called Fifty Years in the Church of Rome. He does his best to try and disparage the Church and blame the Jesuits and Pope Pius IX as being complicit in Lincoln's death. He is not convincing! |
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08-31-2013, 08:29 PM
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RE: Booth escape route north
Archbishop Spaulding hated Lincoln and gave John Wilkes Booth the Holy Sacraments in March 1865.
In the Suppressed Truth about the Assassination of Abraham Lincoln, Burke McCarthy said, "The entire diocese of archbishop Spaulding was a rebel to the core in its hatred of Lincoln." Edwin A. Sherman, registrar of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry said that in March, 1865, Booth was admitted to the Roman Catholic Church and privately given the Holy Sacraments by archbishop Spaulding himself. Laurie you ask for Proof ??? People planning evil don't publicize their intent. Perhaps I could ask you to prove that Booth broke his leg at the theatre. After all, there was over a thousand witnesses. I am asking you for proof, not opinion. I know it has been discussed before, but until people get it right, it needs to be open for discussion. In the future, I would like you to state it as an opinion and not as a fact. Gene Father Chiniquy complained to his superiors that Father Lebel was using the pulpit for private gain. To silence Chiniquy, Lebel charged Chiniquy, in a court of law, that he had unlawful knowledge of Madame Bossey. Lincoln took his case. A witness came forward and told that she over heard Father Lebel promise Madame Bossey 160 acres of land and the forgiveness from God in return for her false statement. Lebel dropped the charges. |
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09-01-2013, 04:05 AM
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RE: Booth escape route north
(08-31-2013 06:57 PM)Craig Hipkins Wrote: Chiniquy's extremely long and somewhat fictitious book is called Fifty Years in the Church of Rome. He does his best to try and disparage the Church and blame the Jesuits and Pope Pius IX as being complicit in Lincoln's death. He is not convincing! In the book Chiniquy claims to have visited Lincoln on three separate occasions in the White House. I have never come across any corroborating evidence that any of these visits really took place. Has anyone seen corroborating evidence? |
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09-01-2013, 09:17 AM
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RE: Booth escape route north
Roger, I too am skeptical about Chiniquy's three supposed visits with Lincoln while he was President. An interesting side note irelates to one of these supposed visits. Chiniquy claimed that Lincoln, in August of 1861, told him that Samuel Morse had been in Rome and had gotten wind of a Papal plot to assassinate him.
Chiniquy was also one of those who claimed that John Surratt was in Washington the night of the assassination. Craig |
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09-01-2013, 09:35 AM
Post: #41
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RE: Booth escape route north
Since Archbishop Spaulding represented much of the Maryland, slave-owning population, I will not contest the fact that Lincoln may not have been his bosom buddy. However, if you are trusting the word of a gentleman in the hierarchy of Freemasonry that the Archbishop administered the sacraments to Booth, you are taking the word of a representative of a group that opposed the Catholic Church and its doctrine well into the 20th century. I can speak from personal experience to that: I had an aunt and uncle that were very high up in the Rites of Freemasonry and the Eastern Star. They almost disowned me when I dared to marry a divorced Catholic - even though he converted to my Episcopal faith before our marriage. There is always the possibility that Mr. Sherman was heaping blame on the Church for the assassination the same as a number of disgruntled Catholics have done over the years.
In order to prove your claim, it would do you well to find written proof in the archives of the Maryland Archdiocese that Booth was converted to Catholicism and given the sacraments. The conversion should certainly be noted in official church records. That would be the primary source to rely on. I was confirmed in the Episcopal Church when I was twelve, and I can go to the written records in both my church and the diocese to prove it. As for the issue of the broken leg, I stick to the one PRIMARY source - Booth himself. I then take into consideration the tear in the flag and the chip in the frame of Washington's engraving as secondary. More importantly before the flag and frame, however, I trust the opinion of at least a half-dozen modern physicians who have told me that a man with that type of injury to his leg would be perfectly capable of mounting a horse and riding for miles before the adrenaline rush would wear off. In closing, I just want to confirm something that you said in the first posting: You claim that Booth had a boat waiting at Benedict, Maryland, in which to make his escape. I'm sure that you are aware that Benedict was (and still is) a tiny little fishing area at the foot of what had been several large plantations (one of which had belonged to an ancestor of mine). It was also the spot chosen by the U.S. Army to place a training camp for U.S. Colored Troops (Camp Stanton) during the war. It was/is also located on the Patuxent River - not the Potomac, and it would take longer to sail out to the Potomac and then across to Virginia. Black and white troops from Camp Stanton had spent a good deal of the war raiding plantations along the Patuxent and out into St. Mary's County for slaves to swell the ranks of the U.S.C.T. I'm sure you are aware of the famous incident with Col. John Sothoron of The Plains. JWB might have found the citizenry around Benedict a little reluctant to deal with him and the ensuing Yankees. |
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09-01-2013, 09:40 AM
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09-01-2013, 08:35 PM
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RE: Booth escape route north
Laurie, You said:
"In order to prove your claim, it would do you well to find written proof in the archives of the Maryland Archdiocese that Booth was converted to Catholicism and given the sacraments. The conversion should certainly be noted in official church records." Wouldn't that be a nice trail for government investigators to follow. Smart people with evil in their heart don't leave clues to follow. "JWB might have found the citizenry around Benedict a little reluctant to deal with him and the ensuing Yankees." Booth was well ahead of the news of Lincoln assassination. He had nothing to fear in Benedict. "I just want to confirm something that you said in the first posting: You claim that Booth had a boat waiting at Benedict, Maryland, in which to make his escape." No! I did not say Booth had a boat waiting for him at Benedict. I said the kidnappers had a ship waiting at Benedict. (Remember, that plan failed) If Booth was in good health, he could have easily reached that ship and sailed away before the town was alerted. That boat was a fast blockade runner. A sleek ship with two masts and an experienced crew. |
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09-02-2013, 04:14 AM
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RE: Booth escape route north
(08-31-2013 08:29 PM)Troy Cowan Wrote: Laurie you ask for Proof ??? People planning evil don't publicize their intent. Troy, I assume your request of Laurie also would apply to yourself. Doesn't that seem fair? (08-30-2013 07:09 PM)Troy Cowan Wrote: After receiving treatment, Booth traveled to his farm in the Shenandoah Valley. There he lived with his wife, Izola, for a year-and-a-half. Because you didn't do what you ask of Laurie (i.e. you didn't say this was your opinion), then this is fact? It is not simply your opinion? |
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09-02-2013, 10:31 AM
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RE: Booth escape route north
When it comes to Lincoln, Davis, and Booth, massive lies have been told and deliberate misinformation produced. I am searching for the truth, I do not pretend to know it. I believe that the whole truth will never be know; hopefully, we can get close to it.
I collect the stories of people living at the time of Lincoln and put them in a timeline. Those stories that fall within the timeline I give more credence to, while those that are outside the timeline I tend to discard. When these stories are put together, I believe you can get an accurate picture of the events that shaped history. I believe in the comments I make, but I will never claim them to be a fact. |
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