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RE: Arrest of Atzerodt - Jim Garrett - 08-22-2012 08:00 AM
Remember, the Atzerodts originally settled in Germantown, Md. My guess is that they spoke German almost exclusively in the household and among neighbors and family. Germantown was a area settled by? So my guess is that the Atzerodts (with maybe John as an exception) did not integrate very quickly into American society.
George stopped at the home of Lucinda Metz in Georgetown. Her home was almost directly across the street from the stage coach stop. I bet she spoke German. She signed her testimony with her mark (X) which would indicate illetracy. Maybe she could not read English?
RE: Arrest of Atzerodt - BettyO - 08-22-2012 08:07 AM
(08-22-2012 08:00 AM)Jim Garrett Wrote: Remember, the Atzerodts originally settled in Germantown, Md. My guess is that they spoke German almost exclusively in the household and among neighbors and family. Germantown was a area settled by? So my guess is that the Atzerodts (with maybe John as an exception) did not integrate very quickly into American society.
George stopped at the home of Lucinda Metz in Georgetown. Her home was almost directly across the street from the stage coach stop. I bet she spoke German. She signed her testimony with her mark (X) which would indicate illetracy. Maybe she could not read English?
Good points, Jim! I have some Chinese friends. Very nice pleasant people, and I've noticed that when they are together they speak exclusively Chinese - no English. I would assume that you are right. Atzerodt more or less, with his family and friends would probably speak exclusively German. Although he spoke English - some of his friends and family may not have done so and speaking more German than English may have precluded him having limited communication skills.
RE: Arrest of Atzerodt - LincolnMan - 08-22-2012 08:09 AM
Julie; Welcome! Why are you "Julie-the Cheesehead?" Any special reason?
RE: Arrest of Atzerodt - Laurie Verge - 08-22-2012 10:04 AM
Julie has to be from Wisconsin! We have a wonderful Life Member of the Surratt Society who comes to our conference each year armed with rounds of cheese for certain friends. It is sooooo good...
RE: Arrest of Atzerodt - BettyO - 08-22-2012 10:14 AM
Julie IS from Wisconsin!
RE: Arrest of Atzerodt - Julie-the-Cheesehead - 08-22-2012 05:14 PM
If I ever do get to go to the Surrattsville conference, I will bring some cheese too.
RE: Arrest of Atzerodt - BettyO - 08-22-2012 05:29 PM
(08-22-2012 05:14 PM)Julie-the-Cheesehead Wrote: If I ever do get to go to the Surrattsville conference, I will bring some cheese too.
Yum!! And I'll bring either VA ham or peanuts! But then I've been accused of being a HAM anyway!! HA!
RE: Arrest of Atzerodt - Gene C - 08-22-2012 06:06 PM
(08-22-2012 05:29 PM)BettyO Wrote:(08-22-2012 05:14 PM)Julie-the-Cheesehead Wrote: If I ever do get to go to the Surrattsville conference, I will bring some cheese too.
Yum!! And I'll bring either VA ham or peanuts! But then I've been accused of being a HAM anyway!! HA!
I'm bringin the Moon Pies & the RC
(Betty, please don't bring boiled peanuts - yuk)
RE: Arrest of Atzerodt - BettyO - 08-22-2012 06:18 PM
(08-22-2012 06:06 PM)Gene C Wrote:(08-22-2012 05:29 PM)BettyO Wrote:(08-22-2012 05:14 PM)Julie-the-Cheesehead Wrote: If I ever do get to go to the Surrattsville conference, I will bring some cheese too.
Yum!! And I'll bring either VA ham or peanuts! But then I've been accused of being a HAM anyway!! HA!
I'm bringin the Moon Pies & the RC
(Betty, please don't bring boiled peanuts - yuk)
I agree, Gene - I hate boiled peanuts! You should try the honey roasted- Yum! I bought some for Ed Isaacs and he loved them!
RE: Arrest of Atzerodt - L Verge - 08-22-2012 06:44 PM
Honey roasted peanuts are great - and so is peanut soup. How many of you used to buy the small bag of salted peanuts and pour them into your bottle of Coke before eating?
P.S. I'll try to find some soft shell crabs, but it'll be pretty early in the season for them. Lightly toss them in seasoned flour and sautee them before putting on a hamburger bun with a little tartar sauce - that's a Southern Maryland treat.
Maryland used to be famous for its turtle soup, but once I read the directions as to how to make it, I almost threw up!
RE: Arrest of Atzerodt - MaddieM - 08-22-2012 06:59 PM
I always feel really sorry for Atzerodt...the poor guy didn't even want to kill anyone!
RE: Arrest of Atzerodt - Gene C - 08-22-2012 10:54 PM
(08-22-2012 06:44 PM)L Verge Wrote: Maryland used to be famous for its turtle soup, but once I read the directions as to how to make it, I almost threw up!
If you bring soup, I think I'll pass
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RE: Arrest of Atzerodt - KLarson - 08-22-2012 11:08 PM
Well, it would seem to me that George was fluent enough that he could understand Booth and the other co-conspirators pretty well, and they must have felt assured he understood them perfectly. Doesn't make sense to have a partner in such dangerous business who might misunderstand you. No doubt George had an accent, but he did live in an English language dominated world from the time he was a child.
Which brings me to another question. What really motivated George to get involved in Booth's schemes? Were other local German Americans pro Confederacy in general or would George have been an exception?
RE: Arrest of Atzerodt - BettyO - 08-23-2012 06:03 AM
(08-22-2012 10:54 PM)Gene C Wrote:(08-22-2012 06:44 PM)L Verge Wrote: Maryland used to be famous for its turtle soup, but once I read the directions as to how to make it, I almost threw up!
If you bring soup, I think I'll pass
OMG -- LOVE turtle!
Hey, Kate!
I think money was what motivated George. He could not have been making that much as a carriage maker; painter. He was like the local guy who nowadays keeps a garage and spray paints cars or works on them for a living.... it may pay well now; but other than Studebaker, I don't think many got rich off of that particular trade....
George was NOT a coward - well; not much of one - especially if he had run the blockade several times as he had claimed. One wonders about this; could it have simply have been bravado? At any rate, George had been supposedly "bragging" that he was going to become "rich." I think a lucrative cash flow was what enticed George to join. I don't really know if he had much of a dedication to the Confederacy such as Powell, Arnold and O'Laughlen had.....
RE: Arrest of Atzerodt - Jim Garrett - 08-23-2012 07:04 AM
(08-23-2012 06:03 AM)BettyO Wrote:(08-22-2012 10:54 PM)Gene C Wrote:(08-22-2012 06:44 PM)L Verge Wrote: Maryland used to be famous for its turtle soup, but once I read the directions as to how to make it, I almost threw up!
If you bring soup, I think I'll pass
OMG -- LOVE turtle!
Hey, Kate!
I think money was what motivated George. He could not have been making that much as a carriage maker; painter. He was like the local guy who nowadays keeps a garage and spray paints cars or works on them for a living.... it may pay well now; but other than Studebaker, I don't think many got rich off of that particular trade....
George was NOT a coward - well; not much of one - especially if he had run the blockade several times as he had claimed. One wonders about this; could it have simply have been bravado? At any rate, George had been supposedly "bragging" that he was going to become "rich." I think a lucrative cash flow was what enticed George to join. I don't really know if he had much of a dedication to the Confederacy such as Powell, Arnold and O'Laughlen had.....
OK Laurie, Maryland is crabs. Betty, bring the peanuts, You ARE the Virginia Ham.