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Kunhardt and the deathbed photo - Lincoln Wonk - 02-25-2015 10:28 PM
I have in my notes that an Ulke family member in Britain trying to raise money for her church sold the deathbed photo to Dorothy Kunhardt in 1961 for $3,700, but I'm still looking for the paper copy of my source. Does anyone know if that figure is correct?
RE: Kunhardt and the deathbed photo - Thomas Kearney - 02-26-2015 02:07 PM
I looked and there is no record as to that event happening. I will continue to dig as deep as I can.
RE: Kunhardt and the deathbed photo - Dave Taylor - 02-26-2015 02:39 PM
Kathy,
Though this source doesn't give the price, here is Dorothy Kunhardt's 1961 Life magazine article verifying the story: http://books.google.com/books?id=9lEEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA12&source=gbs_toc_r&cad=2#v=onepage&q&f=false
Dave
RE: Kunhardt and the deathbed photo - LincolnMan - 02-26-2015 03:07 PM
There was a deathbed photo- with Lincoln in it?
RE: Kunhardt and the deathbed photo - RJNorton - 02-26-2015 03:17 PM
(02-26-2015 03:07 PM)LincolnMan Wrote: There was a deathbed photo- with Lincoln in it?
Hi Bill. They are talking about the Julius Ulke photo taken after Lincoln was carried out of the Petersen House. The photo is in the link Dave posted.
RE: Kunhardt and the deathbed photo - LincolnMan - 02-26-2015 04:52 PM
The one with the bloody pillow?
RE: Kunhardt and the deathbed photo - RJNorton - 02-26-2015 04:53 PM
(02-26-2015 04:52 PM)LincolnMan Wrote: The one with the bloody pillow?
Yes, that's it.
RE: Kunhardt and the deathbed photo - Lincoln Wonk - 02-26-2015 07:06 PM
I asked that question and left for the office and just returned. Thanks to everyone who tried to help.
This is what I have in my 2009 notes, but I don't have the supporting documentation and can't recall what the "Lincoln newsletter" was:
According to the Lincoln newsletter, Vol. 2, No. 3, October 1981, the photo was taken by Julius Ulke, a Washington photographer boarding in the Petersen house at the time. In light of the fact that Secretary of War Stanton was confiscating prints and negatives of assassination-related scenes, Ulke kept his photograph secret, passing it down through his family. It was sold to Mrs. Dorothy Kunhardt in 1961 by a 93-year- old Ulke descendant, who parted with it in order to raise money for her church in England. Cost $ 3750.
I later found the descendant was a Mrs. Easter.
RE: Kunhardt and the deathbed photo - Dave Taylor - 02-26-2015 07:54 PM
(02-26-2015 07:06 PM)Lincoln Wonk Wrote: This is what I have in my 2009 notes, but I don't have the supporting documentation and can't recall what the "Lincoln newsletter" was:
According to the Lincoln newsletter, Vol. 2, No. 3, October 1981...
Kathy,
This is most likely your source. Unfortunately this digitized version doesn't contain the whole newsletter with the information you seek. I'm going to try to contact the Lincoln Hertiage Museum over Twitter and see if they have back issues in their collection. Hopefully they can help.
Dave
Update: Tweet sent
RE: Kunhardt and the deathbed photo - Lincoln Wonk - 02-26-2015 08:39 PM
Dave, That's an amazing idea. Thank you. It's a great fact, but, six years after the fact, it's difficult to source it. Kathy
RE: Kunhardt and the deathbed photo - Dave Taylor - 02-26-2015 08:45 PM
(02-26-2015 08:39 PM)Lincoln Wonk Wrote: Dave, That's an amazing idea. Thank you. It's a great fact, but, six years after the fact, it's difficult to source it. Kathy
Happy to help, Kathy. If I don't hear back from them, I would recommend you send them (or the college library) an email with your inquiry.
RE: Kunhardt and the deathbed photo - STS Lincolnite - 02-27-2015 07:48 AM
Kathy,
Per Dave's suggestion if no Twitter response (if needed), here is the contact page for the Lincoln Heritage Museum.
http://museum.lincolncollege.edu/contact/
I was unfamiliar with this place before and now I hope to make a visit in the future.
RE: Kunhardt and the deathbed photo - Gene C - 02-27-2015 07:52 AM
We are planning on visiting the Lincoln Heritage Museum in Lincoln, IL this year as part of the Springfield Tour, in October. Come join us!
RE: Kunhardt and the deathbed photo - L Verge - 02-27-2015 08:24 PM
Lincoln College and its Lincoln collections were very well-known when I first entered the "real" Lincoln world (not just assassination). If I am not mistaken, they granted an honorary doctorate degree to James O. Hall back in the 1980s or early 90s.
RE: Kunhardt and the deathbed photo - Lincoln Wonk - 02-27-2015 08:43 PM
Thanks, Laurie.
I did contact the museum, and a wonderful professor on sabbatical is going to search for it on Sunday.
I have another question for you all. Remember Joseph Hazleton's piece, "The Assassination of President Lincoln." Mine, reproduced from NPS, has no date, and I couldn't find a date on any copy online or on auction. I know it was self-published when Hazleton was quite advanced in age, but I thought it'd be great to have a date or year if anyone has one, although I know the odds are slim.
Kathy