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RE: Who is this person? - L Verge - 12-27-2018 03:37 PM
I don't ever remember hearing the brothels bit attached to the barber that I think is Cipriano Ferrandini, but I will go with him and the Baltimore Plot. He was in business in Baltimore for a very long time, so his managerial skills may have been put to use elsewhere.
RE: Who is this person? - AussieMick - 12-27-2018 04:03 PM
(Just to probably confuse things) I thought Cipriano Ferrandini ran the bar to which Booth and others attended. I guess brothel and bar were synonymous in those days.
RE: Who is this person? - L Verge - 12-27-2018 04:34 PM
(12-27-2018 04:03 PM)AussieMick Wrote: (Just to probably confuse things) I thought Cipriano Ferrandini ran the bar to which Booth and others attended. I guess brothel and bar were synonymous in those days.
Pretty sure that he ran the barber shop in the basement of Barnum's Hotel in Baltimore.
RE: Who is this person? - AussieMick - 12-27-2018 05:41 PM
Looks as though, Laurie, you're right (of course)... David Herbert Donald writes about the President-elect ... " Just as Lincoln emerged from the narrow vestibule of the Calvert Street Station, Cipriano Ferrandini a Baltimore barber and a few associates planned to assassinate him". Pinkerton advised a schedule change.
RE: Who is this person? - Eva Elisabeth - 12-27-2018 05:42 PM
Sorry for delay. Excellent guesses, everyone, but I'm sorry to say none is correct.
Roger, you are right - the gentleman is less known for his brothels but for another business he was into -
Hint #2: What business?
Hint #3: I could also have posted the question here:
https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/thread-1313-page-29.html
Please also see and guess on Rob's challenge here:
https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/thread-212-page-14.html
RE: Who is this person? - AussieMick - 12-27-2018 05:47 PM
An inventor ? Tesla? ( I was thinking he 'looked' German ... but Tesla wasnt German)
RE: Who is this person? - Eva Elisabeth - 12-27-2018 05:52 PM
Tesla would have made a "Stump the Austrian" - question...yes, the gentleman was a German.
Nope, not an inventor, rather an entrepreneur.
RE: Who is this person? - RJNorton - 12-27-2018 05:55 PM
(12-27-2018 01:38 PM)Warren Wrote: Is that the barber that supposedly shaved Booth and/or Surratt before the assassination? Can't recall his name but it was in some past posts in trial testamony.
(12-27-2018 05:41 PM)AussieMick Wrote: Looks as though, Laurie, you're right (of course)... David Herbert Donald writes about the President-elect ... " Just as Lincoln emerged from the narrow vestibule of the Calvert Street Station, Cipriano Ferrandini a Baltimore barber and a few associates planned to assassinate him". Pinkerton advised a schedule change.
I said Charles Wood because he was the barber who testitfied at John Surratt's trial that he cut Booth's hair the morning of the assassination. He also testified that he thought he cut Surratt's hair that morning, but this would be impossible if Surratt were in Elmira.
RE: Who is this person? - Eva Elisabeth - 12-27-2018 05:57 PM
A good guess, Roger, but not he.
RE: Who is this person? - AussieMick - 12-27-2018 06:54 PM
I suppose, Eva, that a reasonable guess (you said an entrepreneur) would be that he was involved in munitions or the warfare industry in some way.
RE: Who is this person? - Eva Elisabeth - 12-27-2018 08:00 PM
Ugh, well, Mike, you are touching a sore spot, of those Germans who are aware the least (including me) are pleased of being one of the biggest arms exporters in the world...but nope, the gentleman's businesses were not war-related.
Hint #4: Think gold.
RE: Who is this person? - Steve - 12-27-2018 08:24 PM
I thought the image of the man seemed familiar to me, so I admit that I used Google and found out who he was. Relax, I'm not going to ruin the trivia game and say who he was. But, as a historical accuracy nit-picker, I have to take issue with Eva calling him an "operator of brothels". One of the man's occupations was a hotel operator and the only legitimate historical source that I'm aware of that hints at the possibility of his involvement with prostitution is a review of one of his hotels in a local newspaper which said in part:
but I would not advise respectable women to go there to sleep as they are liable to hear that which would be repugnant to their feelings – and uttered, too, by the depraved of their own sex
This man's hotel had more of a single-man clientele and he may have had arrangements with local prostitutes for his guests, but I don't think there's enough evidence to be sure based on the above quote.
I just thought I should clarify this in case "operator of brothels" sent somebody down a wrong alley of thinking.
RE: Who is this person? - AussieMick - 12-27-2018 08:31 PM
What about Baron Friedrich Joseph Karl von Gerolt zu Leyen (Prussian ambassador) ?
RE: Who is this person? - Warren - 12-28-2018 01:12 AM
He do have a Prussian air about him. But, have there been a lot of Prussian barber ambassadors? Would you wind up with a Baden - Baden haircut?
RE: Who is this person? - RJNorton - 12-28-2018 05:02 AM
John Jacob Astor?