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RE: Who is this person? - RJNorton - 12-07-2017 06:30 PM

Hint #3: The story of the favor has been disputed by some historians, but the evidence it happened is pretty solid IMO.


RE: Who is this person? - Anita - 12-07-2017 07:00 PM

Norman Judd?


RE: Who is this person? - Eva Elisabeth - 12-07-2017 09:15 PM

Springfield days? Or prior (New Salem?)


RE: Who is this person? - RJNorton - 12-08-2017 04:42 AM

I am sorry, Anita, but it's not Norman Judd.


RE: Who is this person? - RJNorton - 12-08-2017 04:42 AM

(12-07-2017 09:15 PM)Eva Elisabeth Wrote:  Springfield days?

Later.


RE: Who is this person? - Eva Elisabeth - 12-08-2017 06:47 AM

If Lamon had had sons, I'd have guessed him (but I think he only had a daughter.)


RE: Who is this person? - RJNorton - 12-08-2017 06:55 AM

I am sorry, Eva, but it's not Ward Hill Lamon.


RE: Who is this person? - Gene C - 12-08-2017 07:37 AM

Alan Pinkerton ?


RE: Who is this person? - RJNorton - 12-08-2017 07:55 AM

I am sorry, Gene, but it's not Allan Pinkerton.


RE: Who is this person? - RJNorton - 12-08-2017 10:24 AM

(12-08-2017 04:42 AM)RJNorton Wrote:  
(12-07-2017 09:15 PM)Eva Elisabeth Wrote:  Springfield days?

Later.

Hint #4: Yes, later, but not for a long time.


RE: Who is this person? - Eva Elisabeth - 12-08-2017 01:43 PM

I try again - did Lincoln get to know this person (first meeting/acquaintance) in Springfield days, or even before?
"Later" obviously refers to the said incident of Lincoln asking him for a favor (since "Lincoln knew this person during his pre-Presidential years") - but I don't know what to do with "not for a long time".


RE: Who is this person? - RJNorton - 12-08-2017 01:54 PM

The first acquaintance was during the New Salem days, but the two were not friends. This man did not live in New Salem. But they probably at least met.

The man died not long after Lincoln was inaugurated as President. That's why I said "not for a long time."


RE: Who is this person? - Gene C - 12-08-2017 02:11 PM

Stephen Douglas, so was the favor holding Lincoln's hat at the inauguration?,


RE: Who is this person? - Dennis Urban - 12-08-2017 02:15 PM

I think Tad had a male and female playmate that were regulars at the executive mansion but I cannot recall who they were. Is this the right track?


RE: Who is this person? - RJNorton - 12-08-2017 02:29 PM

I am sorry, Dennis, but that is not the right track.

Congratulations to Gene! Kudos, Gene. The answer is Stephen A. Douglas. The people in the photo are sons from his first marriage: Robert Douglas is at the right and Stephen A. Douglas, Jr. is at the left.

Yes, the favor was holding Lincoln's hat at the first inauguration. Some historians have cast doubt on this, but I think this article seems convincing:

https://www.americanheritage.com/content/he-did-hold-lincolns-hat