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RE: Who is this person? - Eva Elisabeth - 10-29-2015 04:36 PM
I knew he is in Lorant's "Lincoln" (but couldn't check earlier) - Archer Herndon.
RE: Who is this person? - RJNorton - 10-29-2015 05:03 PM
Brilliant, Eva! That is William Herndon's father, Archer Gray Herndon.
You win the right to travel back in time and tell Archer's son anything you'd like about his treatment of Mary Lincoln in his writings.
RE: Who is this person? - Eva Elisabeth - 11-07-2015 06:38 PM
Who is this gentleman?
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RE: Who is this person? - RJNorton - 11-08-2015 05:09 AM
Claude Monet?
RE: Who is this person? - Eva Elisabeth - 11-08-2015 06:17 AM
That is an amazing and outstanding guess, Roger, but the gentleman is not Claude Monet. But he was indeed painted by a famous artist -
Hint #1: This is the gentleman at work (and this picture is mentioned in a book that has been discussed on this forum more than once):
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(Hint #2: Who was the artist?)
RE: Who is this person? - Eva Elisabeth - 11-08-2015 01:50 PM
Hint #2: This is the artist who depicted him (and it's a hint about the gentleman's nationality):
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Hint #3: This is another painting by another artist depicting the gentleman at work, which hopefully reveals his profession as well as his outstanding reputation and efforts in his field:
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Hint #4: We recently discussed one of the gentleman's professional actions.
RE: Who is this person? - L Verge - 11-08-2015 02:19 PM
The artist is Henri Toulouse-Lautrec, but I am drawing a blank on the other clues. The gentleman to identify would be French, if Toulouse-Lautrec is the clue. Also, T-L spent a lot of time around doctors and dentists because of his illnesses, deformities, dental conditions, etc.
RE: Who is this person? - Pamela - 11-08-2015 07:30 PM
It's called "Dr Pean Operating".
http://thephysicianspalette.com/2012/03/04/dr-peans-lautracheotomy/
RE: Who is this person? - Eva Elisabeth - 11-09-2015 08:43 AM
Sorry for delay - my internet didn't work.
Kudos, Pamela! Toulouse Lautrec's 1891 picture "Docteur Péan en train d'opérer" is mentioned in " The Last Lincolns" as he was the first to operate on Jack's carbuncle. Kudos also to Laurie for identifying HTL!
Here's some info on the picture:
http://thephysicianspalette.com/2012/03/04/dr-peans-lautracheotomy/
...and here on the doc's accomplishments:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jules-%C3%89mile_P%C3%A9an
Pamela, you win tickets for the first cabaret, "Le Chat Noir", whose famous ad was a Lautrec artwork, too:
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Chat_Noir
RE: Who is this person? - L Verge - 11-09-2015 12:47 PM
One of my minors in college was French and involved art, music, literature, and culture - more than just the language. Lautrec was one of my favorite subjects. He was very talented and very troubled. I believe that, about twenty-five years ago, geneticists proved that Lautrec's "dwarfism" and other defects were more likely due to the fact that his parents were first cousins.
Similar genetic finds are inherent here in Southern Maryland. The first women did not come to the English settlement in Jamestown until 1619. As a result, some of the men began to habitate with Native American women. They moved farther and farther away from the settlement due to discrimination, and when Maryland was settled, Father Andrew White found five or six of these families living in the new colony. He baptized the women and children and married the couples. However, the stigma remained. This caused further inbreeding among these families.
They also accepted their black brethren who sought refuge among them, and the bloodlines now carried three races of people who lived peacefully in little settlements of their own - and continued to marry and have children within those same bloodlines. They gave themselves the name of Wesorts (as in we sorts of people). I have also heard them called Wedems when I was a child (we-dem kinda people). Oswell Swann, who conducted Booth and Herold to the Cox home on April 15-16 was a Wesort.
In the 1950s, the Public Health Service did a huge study of the Wesorts of Southern Maryland as well as similar intermarriage situations along the east coast. In the 1960s and 70s, I taught quite a few of these children (300+ years after Jamestown's migration). Genetics had created freckles on black faces, strong Indian hair on both black and white, no teeth or stubs of teeth only, problems with eyesight, lack of fingernails, and smooth cafe au lait skin on many who otherwise appeared white.
A number of years ago, I was contacted by health officers in North Carolina who were conducting similar genetic studies on members of the Surratt family! A branch of "our" Surratts left Maryland in the mid-1700s and settled in North Carolina, where they evidently became rather clannish (perhaps because of their French Hugenot background) and intermarried - all within the Caucasian race, however. The most prevalent problem among these people has been poor eyesight. They have a certain name attached to their clans, but I can never remember what it is!
Those of us who have studied cultural trends know that intermarriage within bloodlines was a frequent occurrence well into the 20th century here in America. I was very impressed when I read that the practice has the official name of parental consanguination (hope I spelled that right) when dealing with the effects on descendants.
I bet that Eva never thought I'd come up with a biology lesson to go along with her very difficult guessing game...
RE: Who is this person? - Pamela - 11-09-2015 10:41 PM
Thanks! I had to refresh my memory as to who Jack was. I read a book about Robert Lincoln a couple of years ago and of course he was Robert's son who had such a wonderful childhood and a great future, until the French doctor operated on him.
I wonder if other parents of dwarves like Lautrec blamed their stature on injuries? At least I read he was actually a dwarf in addition to a brilliant artist.
(11-09-2015 08:43 AM)Eva Elisabeth Wrote: Sorry for delay - my internet didn't work.
Kudos, Pamela! Toulouse Lautrec's 1891 picture "Docteur Péan en train d'opérer" is mentioned in " The Last Lincolns" as he was the first to operate on Jack's carbuncle. Kudos also to Laurie for identifying HTL!
Here's some info on the picture:
http://thephysicianspalette.com/2012/03/04/dr-peans-lautracheotomy/
...and here on the doc's accomplishments:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jules-%C3%89mile_P%C3%A9an
Pamela, you win tickets for the first cabaret, "Le Chat Noir", whose famous ad was a Lautrec artwork, too:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Chat_Noir
RE: Who is this person? - Eva Elisabeth - 01-09-2016 06:37 AM
Who is (was) this gentleman?
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RE: Who is this person? - RJNorton - 01-09-2016 08:19 AM
A photo of Brigadier General George D. Ramsey when he was much younger than in this image?
http://www.goordnance.army.mil/history/chiefs/ramsey.html
RE: Who is this person? - Eva Elisabeth - 01-09-2016 10:53 AM
This is an outstanding guess, Roger, but, sorry, not correct.
Hint #1: The gentleman's occupation was in the field of literature.
RE: Who is this person? - Rogerm - 01-09-2016 11:40 AM
Is it a picture of Oliver Wendell Holmes?