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RE: Mosby - Laurie Verge - 05-13-2013 07:58 AM
I gave up following the Neff theory after awhile, but I believe that I am correct that both Mr. Hall and Ed Steers searched in vain to prove that Andrew Potter and his brother even existed.
RE: Mosby - Rob Wick - 05-13-2013 08:25 AM
I talked with Ray Neff once when I was researching Conger, and I think I've mentioned this before but when he said to me "what William Hanchett did to Otto Eisenschiml was terrible" or words to that effect, that told me all I needed to know about Neff. I think much of his determination to have proof for his theories came about after he supposedly found Lafayette Baker's cipher message. At that point he began to believe what he had found and constantly was on the search for material to bolster his position. In the end one of two things happened. Either someone took advantage of Neff and provided him with papers that were forgeries or he did it himself for reasons known only to him. Either way it doesn't speak too highly of his work and/or reputation.
Best
Rob
RE: Mosby - BettyO - 05-13-2013 08:29 AM
I agree, Rob. Bill Hanchett only exposed Eisenschiml's work for what it was - pure undocumented speculation! Nothing terrible about it -
RE: Mosby - Laurie Verge - 05-13-2013 10:33 AM
Well said, Rob. I often found it somewhat unusual that both Eisenschiml and Neff were chemists, not trained historians. IMO, one told a lie and the other swore to it.
Have fun with this link http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~wbova/fn/history/lincoln_02.htm
I'll pay $100 to anyone who can find Vol. I that is mentioned in that link.
RE: Mosby - John Stanton - 05-13-2013 01:56 PM
(05-13-2013 10:33 AM)Laurie Verge Wrote: Well said, Rob. I often found it somewhat unusual that both Eisenschiml and Neff were chemists, not trained historians. IMO, one told a lie and the other swore to it.Laurie. I will come to your shop to collect the $100, as soon as the ink dries.
Have fun with this link http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~wbova/fn/history/lincoln_02.htm
I'll pay $100 to anyone who can find Vol. I that is mentioned in that link.
RE: Mosby - Gene C - 05-13-2013 02:21 PM
Historic photo of Otto Eisenschiml and Ray Neff
http://0.tqn.com/d/movies/1/0/m/R/Y/the-muppets-beaker-bunsen.jpg
RE: Mosby - Laurie Verge - 05-13-2013 02:30 PM
I love it! Is that Eisenschiml trying to get Neff to "drink the Kool-Aid" a la Jim Jones???
RE: Mosby - John Stanton - 05-13-2013 02:59 PM
scldrgnfjy Re. Post 26. Who was Enoch Mason.....? He was on detached duty in King George Co, VA in 1865 and was on the Ferry Boat when Booth crossed the Rappahannock. Full name Enoch Welford Mason.
B 1844, D 1922. M Mary Belle Simpson 1868 and had 3 girls and 1 boy. buried in St. John's Episcopal Church Yard in King George.. The Mason family was very active in Confederate clandestine activity.
RE: Mosby - LincolnMan - 05-14-2013 03:50 PM
The coolest thing I remember about Mosby is that he sent Lincoln a lock of his hair.
RE: Mosby - Rick Smith - 05-14-2013 06:44 PM
For those of you who have had or are having difficulty with Come Retribution, read Bill Richter's, "Last Confederate Heroes," which makes use of the thesis of Come Retribution and explains all in an enjoyable and easy to digest format.
Available for order from the Surratt House Museum book list.
RE: Mosby - BettyO - 05-14-2013 06:56 PM
AND, may I add Rick, also available in eBook format -- STILL the best assassination novel! Well researched and extremely well written -
RE: Mosby - Rick Smith - 05-14-2013 07:26 PM
Betty,
Yes, of course you may add that piece of important information which I thoughtlessly neglected.
My most humble apologies.
Thank you for your work in getting LCH into ebook format.
Rick
RE: Mosby - BettyO - 05-14-2013 07:34 PM
Rick m'dear - it tain't about me!! I just think more folk should read LCH !!!
It's such a wonderful book - an easy read, informative, interesting with a wonderful "period you are there feel!" The characterizations are grand!
Don't miss it!
RE: Mosby - Rick Smith - 05-15-2013 08:37 AM
Betty,
Well said, and quite right.
Rick
RE: Mosby - Jim Garrett - 05-15-2013 07:51 PM
I agree with Betty. My family thinks I'm a bit off. For the last several (maybe a little more than several) years, I have read almost exclusively books on the Lincoln Assassination. For me to go far afield, I read LCH at the suggestion of Rick. I really went far by reading "historical fiction", which really is so well done and close to the historical bone. I found it very easy to visual many of the scenes in the book.