Surratt Society Meeting and "Conference" 2021

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RE: Surratt Society Meeting and "Conference" 2021 - Rob Wick - 04-21-2021 05:40 AM

Roger,

It seems to me that one possibility could be that at the time no one thought much about Stanton's comments because of the overwhelming emotions wrought by Lincoln's death. If I'm not mistaken given that Hay did most of the writing of the Lincoln, and that he had a flair for the dramatic in his writing, that he knew that Stanton's words were a fitting coda to the Lincoln drama. What seems equally telling is that very few people tried to refute the quote even though Stanton was long dead and couldn't verify or refute any utterance. I cannot think of anyone who said that Stanton never said anything after Lincoln died, although at this time of the morning my thinking isn't the clearest.

Best
Rob

RE: Surratt Society Meeting and "Conference" 2021 - wpbinzel - 04-21-2021 08:05 AM

What Scott did not know when he proposed the topic for a presentation to the Surratt Society, is that I jumped on it because I (and I suspected many others) have a great interest in it. About five years ago, a professor at MIT (who happens to be my younger brother) asked me the "ages" or "angles" question, which prompted me do research on the topic and respond. While I did not know what Scott's findings or conclusions were in advance, I was confident that they would be well-researched and well-documented. My research was nowhere as near comprehensive as Scott's, but based on his presentation, i believe that he and I are in the same camp (although, as Scott suggests, we may have taken different paths to get there). I look forward to reading his published manuscript. In the meantime, I join with those thanking and congratulating Scott for a excellent presentation.

RE: Surratt Society Meeting and "Conference" 2021 - Wesley Harris - 04-21-2021 09:31 AM

I saw the Society meeting & most of Ed's presentation but I was at work and missed Scott's portion. I would really like to see the recording of the entire conference.

RE: Surratt Society Meeting and "Conference" 2021 - wpbinzel - 04-21-2021 09:51 AM

(04-21-2021 09:31 AM)Wesley Harris Wrote: I saw the Society meeting & most of Ed's presentation but I was at work and missed Scott's portion. I would really like to see the recording of the entire conference.

Wes - As I noted earlier, both speakers graciously gave us permission to record their presentations; however, both contain information that is subject to copyright, which limits our ability to post them at this point. When we are able to do so, we will make them available and I will announce that on this site.

RE: Surratt Society Meeting and "Conference" 2021 - RJNorton - 04-21-2021 02:50 PM

Thank you to Steve Williams for sending this article. Regarding the article, Steve writes, "It's from page 2 of the April 26, 1865 edition of the Quincy Daily Whig (of Quincy Illinois) and contains a letter dated April 15, 1865 from Col. George Rutherford describing his participation in the events of that night.

RE: Surratt Society Meeting and "Conference" 2021 - RJNorton - 04-23-2021 04:32 AM

Thanks to Steve Williams for sending this article. Steve writes, "It's an account of Lincoln's deathbed by A. F. Rockwell from page 14 of the 04 March 1888 edition of the Saint Paul Globe (MN).

RE: Surratt Society Meeting and "Conference" 2021 - RJNorton - 04-27-2021 07:12 AM

(04-20-2021 11:37 AM)RJNorton Wrote: However, Colonel George V. Rutherford stated he placed the coins, and the Chicago History Museum has an affidavit.

https://images.chicagohistory.org/asset/29269/

Many thanks to Steve Williams for attempting to find a legible version of the affidavits for the coins George Rutherford said he placed over the President's eyes. Steve's filtered version is still difficult to read; if anyone has access to a more readable version, please post!

[Image: rutherfordcoins.jpg]

RE: Surratt Society Meeting and "Conference" 2021 - RJNorton - 04-28-2021 04:48 AM

Many thanks to Steve Williams for sending this account. Steve writes, "It's part of an undated account by Dr. Ezra W. Abbott of his actions during the night of the assassination. Unfortunately the auction site that sold the original letter only posted images of two pages (1st and 3rd?) of the four page account. It may have been written for a talk he gave

https://historical.ha.com/itm/autographs/celebrities/-lincoln-s-assassination-ezra-w-abbott-md-autograph-manuscript-signed-in-title-three-and-one-quarter-pages-large-6-total-2/a/6014-61117.s

Dr. Abbott says that he was in Ford's Theatre during the assassination. He describes heading down stairs and then heading around the box, which would indicate Abbott had been sitting in the Family Circle. His description of Laura Keene already in the box by the time he got there would indicate that he got to the box well after Drs. Taft and King had entered the box. From the lack of description of his involvement in the care of Lincoln in the box, it's possible they were already preparing to move the President by the time he arrived at the box. He does say that he was one of six people to carry Lincoln across to Petersen House."

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Although Dr. Abbott lists himself as one of those who carried the stricken President to the Petersen House, I have seen accounts in which Abbott is not listed at all. I know he is the doctor who kept track of Lincoln's pulse readings during the long night.

RE: Surratt Society Meeting and "Conference" 2021 - Steve - 04-30-2021 01:05 AM

We seem to have another eyewitness who claims, years later, to have heard Stanton utter a version of the ages quote. According to the New Hampshire Historical Society, Dr. Ezra Abbott wrote:

During the entire night I kept the record, and the only one, of the president’s respiration and pulsation, noting them every half hour. At 3 a.m. I went to the office of the National Intelligencer and left a copy of my memoranda up to that time. I resumed my position at the foot of the sufferer’s bed, and remained there until he breathed his last, at 7:22 a.m. Secretary of War Edwin M. Stanton immediately exclaimed, ′He now belongs to the ages.′

I don't know if this quote comes from one of the missing pages from the above account or another, or when it was written - the NHHS doesn't provide this information. They do say that a scrap of the sleeve of Lincoln's coat which had been cut off in the box and subsequently pocketed by Dr. Abbott was donated to the Society in 1921 by Abbott's niece.

Here's an article about Dr Abbott:

http://www.cowhampshireblog.com/2015/04/14/concord-new-hampshires-connection-to-abraham-lincolns-assassination/

RE: Surratt Society Meeting and "Conference" 2021 - Steve - 05-10-2021 02:20 AM

I've probably thought too much about this whole "coins on the eyes" question. Here's another account from 1914, by Lt. John Bolton who claimed he was the officer in charge of the Provost Guard at Ford's Theatre the night of the assassination:

A few minutes after seven o'clock on the morning of April 15th, Mr. Lincoln breathed his last. Mrs. Lincoln was summoned from the front parlor, where she had been waiting all night, to the death chamber. At this time I was in the hall and I recall very vividly the words she said as she passed me; they were; "Oh; why didn't you have me to him." (sic) After he died, Colonel Vincent — since promoted to General — asked me if I could get him a silver half-dollar; one of the officers had one and he wanted another to place over the President's eyes, to keep them closed after death. I obtained one from the landlady of the Falstaff House next door, giving her a dollar greenback for it, which was then the value of silver as compared with paper currency. This coin is still in my possession.
Forming my guard in line, we presented arms to the body of the President as it was carried past us to the hearse, after which I was relieved from duty.