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RE: Who is this person? - Gene C - 07-09-2024 09:12 AM
(07-09-2024 07:27 AM)David Lockmiller Wrote: To whom did President Lincoln address these words: "[B]efore I could have any power whatever, I had to take the oath to support the Constitution of the United States, and execute the laws as I found them."
And, what were the circumstances of the statement?
No Googling, please.
Lincoln was ahead of his time
It's depends on what the meaning of the word "execute" is.
Similar principle to - "“It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is"
If you don't like the law as you find it, you can "execute" it, like in putting it to death.
Getting back to David's question, did the circumstance have to do with sending supplies to Fr. Sumter?
RE: Who is this person? - David Lockmiller - 07-09-2024 10:11 AM
(07-09-2024 09:12 AM)Gene C Wrote: Getting back to David's question, did the circumstance have to do with sending supplies to Fr. Sumter?
Gene, the circumstances did not have anything at all to do "with sending supplies to Fort Sumter."
And, Roger, the person being addressed was not Horace Greeley.
Clue number one: The person being addressed by Lincoln had himself delivered an "address" in the House of Representatives to a large audience the previous day. President Lincoln, who was greatly interested in the subject matter of the address, was among the distinguished persons present.
RE: Who is this person? - J. Beckert - 07-09-2024 12:24 PM
Alexander Stephans?
RE: Who is this person? - David Lockmiller - 07-09-2024 01:38 PM
(07-09-2024 12:24 PM)J. Beckert Wrote: Alexander Stephans?
Not Alexander Stephans.
Clue number two: The person in question is from Great Britain.
RE: Who is this person? - Gene C - 07-09-2024 01:53 PM
I had a great answer to your questions, but your second clue kind of ruined it.
Charles Adams (Ambassador to England) and the signing of the Emancipation Proclamation?
RE: Who is this person? - David Lockmiller - 07-09-2024 02:12 PM
(07-09-2024 01:53 PM)Gene C Wrote: I had a great answer to your questions, but your second clue kind of ruined it.
Charles Adams (Ambassador to England) and the signing of the Emancipation Proclamation?
You are correct about my second clue ruining your current guess. But at least you were heading in the right direction for the correct answer.
Clue number three: The correct answer lies in F. B. Carpenter's book, The Inner Life of Abraham Lincoln. Six Months at the White House.
RE: Who is this person? - Rogerm - 07-09-2024 02:51 PM
Was this the Prince of Wales; the son of Queen Victoria, making a tour of the United States? I can't remember his actual name.
RE: Who is this person? - David Lockmiller - 07-09-2024 03:17 PM
(07-09-2024 02:51 PM)Rogerm Wrote: Was this the Prince of Wales; the son of Queen Victoria, making a tour of the United States? I can't remember his actual name.
No.
RE: Who is this person? - AussieMick - 07-09-2024 03:58 PM
Im not aware he ever visited the US, but I'll suggest John Bright.
RE: Who is this person? - David Lockmiller - 07-09-2024 04:46 PM
(07-09-2024 03:58 PM)AussieMick Wrote: Im not aware he ever visited the US, but I'll suggest John Bright.
Not John Bright. I think one has to find the reference in F. B. Carpenter's book in order to answer the question.
RE: Who is this person? - David Lockmiller - 07-10-2024 12:21 AM
Six Months At The White House, page75:
"Mr. George Thompson, the English anti-slavery orator, delivered an address in the House of Representatives, to a large audience, April 6, 1864. Among the distinguished persons present was President Lincoln, who was greatly interested."
The following morning, Mr. Thompson and party, called at the White House. "The President was alone when their names were announced, with the exception of myself. (Francis Carpenter) Dropping all business, he ordered the party to be immediately admitted. Greeting them very cordially, the gentlemen took seats, and Mr. Thompson commenced conversation by referring to the condition of public sentiment in England in regard to the great conflict the nation was passing through."
Page 76:
Mr. Lincoln thereupon said: "Mr. Thompson, the people of Great Britain, and of other foreign governments, were in one great error in reference to this conflict. They seemed to think that, the moment I was President, I had the power to abolish slavery, forgetting that, before I could have any power whatever, I had to take the oath to support the Constitution of the United States, and execute the laws as I found them."
RE: Who is this person? - Gene C - 07-10-2024 07:17 AM
Good trivia question
RE: Who is this person? - David Lockmiller - 07-10-2024 10:46 AM
(07-10-2024 07:17 AM)Gene C Wrote: Good trivia question
Thanks, Gene. The full text of what President Lincoln said at that time is much better and much more informative. But sometimes it is better to be exactly on point.
RE: Who is this person? - David Lockmiller - 07-18-2024 01:15 PM
Who was the United States Supreme Court Justice who wrote the following statement regarding President Abraham Lincoln in the epilogue of his Supreme Court memoir?
An Illinois lawyer named Abraham Lincoln shared Cephalus's thoughts about justice and my views about sovereign immunity. In his State of the Union message of 1861, he said: "It is as much the duty of Government to render prompt justice against itself, in favor of its citizens, as it is to administer the same between private individuals."
Regarding Cephalus's thoughts about justice, the Supreme Court Justice in question wrote the following on the previous page of his epilogue: "A serene and elderly gentleman named Cephalus accepted Socrates' suggestion that justice consisted of speaking the truth and paying one's debts."
As usual, "No Googling" please.
RE: Who is this person? - J. Beckert - 07-18-2024 01:30 PM
David Davis?